Sadhguru - What Should Be The Front End Of Our Life? Reply to Comments

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Comment: Again the topic diverted.

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Good, you put it across, that you din't understand.

Question is = Girl is asking should she listen to her INNER VOICE or EXTERNAL situations.

INNER VOICE here means her Thoughts.

Now he's telling that NO matter how much knowledge one person has it is just a speck in the Universe. Agreed Right.

Can any person say he's fully knowledgeable.

No human has even 0.1 percent knowledge of the entire Universe, cosmos. Got it right.

Now this itself proves Knowledge, thoughts are not the BEST way to go forward.
So your inner voice is limited. So the thoughts from your inner voice is also limited.

He's not against thoughts, he's telling brains are good but he's telling mind is limited.

In short he's telling Humans are beyond Mind, Body, Emotions, Consciousness (Life).

He's telling entire cosmos and everything in universe is one big energy. Remember E=MC2.

Theoretically human can be converted to earth, fire, wind, water, matter etc. Right. Think.
Matter, a human can create one more human life, which is matter right. Get it.

Bury body in earth becomes mud.
Burn it, it fuels the fire, becomes flames in fire right. Body becomes fire.

Water, yes put body in water. What happens, after few months it will disintegrate, become rotten and slowly dissolve in water. Try putting in a big glass pool without fish, and see what. Trust me in a few months body becomes water.

Just hang body in air for few years, see what it becomes. It will slowly decompose and become mummy and again after some years it will vanish in thin air.

Yes its all because of germs, microbes. But point even germs die, where do they go??? E=MC2 Got it. Remember Atoms. Getting relation between humans, atoms, cosmos and germs etc. We are all one in different forms, levels, capabilities.

I am saying E=Mc2.
Sadhguru is saying entire cosmos is one big living thing.
You are saying humans, earth, atoms, mind, planets, thoughts.

In short i am saying water.
Sadhguru is saying H2O.
Ask a fish what is water. It will say air. Think, for a fish water is air.
For a Bird Land is Air.

E=MC2.
It's all about which side of E=Mc2 are you understanding.

That's it.
Get it.

In short right from the first atom created in the universe to the last particle in the cosmos is connected. Everything, Everyone is connected is cosmos.

It is just that we are all different forms. Aren't we all atoms, humans, stones, blackholes, sky, sun, stars.

Get it. Just that we are the most sophisticated creatures. I won't say best creatures cause in a desert, in a ocean, in space without food and water there are many many creatures which will easily live. Yes see Tardigrade, it can live in space.

All i am saying is even if humans become Extinct Tardigrade, Deep Sea creatures, Germs, Microbes, Amoeba Cockroach etc. will still live on earth.
So now tell me are humans most smart, strong, best species. Not at all.

So now tell what is best to become one with the entire cosmos or use your inner voice.

He's telling realise that humans are beyond the limited.

Reply-2:

Bro, its not diverted.
Question is can we trust our consciousness to lead life.

He says yes but its limited.
He's telling humans are not just emotions, thoughts, consciousness or mind.

We are all beyond what we think of. For eg: everything in universe is made of atoms.
Yes sun, moon, planets, blackholes, worms, virus, water, phones, plants etc.

Now this is a experience. It varies from person to person but feel is the same.

For eg: i believe no God.
You say allah is God.
Agreed you are right but what is the feel i get when i say there is no God. It is the same feel when you say Allah is God.

The problem is when i say you are false.
When someone else says Jesus is only God. Yes, person who says no God or Jesus is God also has the same feel right.

Eg: Every parent (unless exceptions, some dont love) loves their kid.
But some love more, some less right.
Now can i say this is how ideal parent-kid love is.
What about animals, have you seen how animals take care of their kids. Just see penguins, impossible for humans.

So its not about who is correct, its can we see each other views, if not atleast can we co- exist.

This is what Sadhguru is saying.
See E=Mc2.
In short anything in Universe can be converted to anything.
Even nothing has energy. Think, only if potential energy is there, it can become kinetic energy. So emptiness or nothing has zero energy.
Zero number also has a value right, got it. So zero energy is also having some (dormant) energy.

It is just that we are all in different forms, different levels of evolution. Be it living or non-living.

For eg: imagine if there is just you, Allah and Quran on this entire Universe. Just 3.

Now see the whole concept of Hell, Morality, Namaz, Fasting, Heaven changes. In fact lot of Sins can't even exist if there are no people, society in the world.

I am not saying Allah is wrong. If i follow him, the entire universe makes sense, yea.

I am saying yes i can see Allah is God.

But you are not getting the person who says there is no God. I can see the universe from his perspective as well.

Now problem is when one of them says is better. But all this is so useless if whole planet can be just wiped out in a few seconds and look at us talking.

Not a single headlines will come anywhere in entire cosmos if whole planet is gone today.

Get it. Creator is not even 0.1% of what is known about him till date from all sources, including word of God because its only what is needed for us or how much God thought our brains can take.

Problem is we are all understanding different parts of God and fightng i am right. And then say He will goto hell, someone sees logic, science in creation and say there is no God. All are one & the same if you know the feel with what each one is standing by.

 

Comment:  I would like to know you.

Reply:

Just a normal human being still wondering about things.

One thing is i am a bit curious and like every human even i am searching for that elusive thing in life, which i feel is ultimate.

But i realise that the ultimate and its experience can be different from each person to person.

Its like you can be happy just with your current life.
There are folks who are happy even on the streets.
Then you know folks trying to be happy with success, love, being good, while some derive some sort of pleasure in pain, hurting others anger.

But point is we are all seeking something. Those who are saying Nothing, they are seeking nothing right. Essentially they WANT to seek NOTHING. This is also seeking right.

Its like Zero also value.
Like that.

So that's about me, as of now nothing special about me. Just a normal human who is seeking.
But i make it a point to believe everything with a pinch of salt coz as i said what i see is water, you may see H2O. Someone else calls it Liquid.

So i am curious, seek answers but never hellbent that yes Sadhguru is right, or what i say is right or what you say is wrong.

Everything in Universe is Relative. I mean imagine if we all are Atoms or think from level of Atoms. Yes, technically we are all Atoms right.

Then all this thing what i said is nonsense.

So i am you, you are me. We are all atoms.

I never say only i am right and other are wrong. In a context for a question yes, in a debate yes, i have to put my views. Personally deep down, PERMANENTLY THERE IS NOTHING RIGHT OR WRONG.

Comment: what process do you use to seek the ultimate truth? Is it kriya yoga. Because I'm a curious seeker too

Reply: 

Great, than that should be enough.
To be honest i still don't know what is kriya yoga.

But coincidentally i just started kriya yoga from last 120 hours or 5 days.

So from the day i got curious (i don't exactly when i started being curious as well, but ya you can say atleast since i was few years old), Until the last 5 days i just kept on searching left, right and centre for the truth.

So don't worry about methods.
There are people in fact like Sadhguru got spiritual by fluke. He just went one day to the hill, it happened.
Methods help but seeking is the key.

In short i am not the right person to guide and myself dont have a guide or guru.

Keep searching, seeking...i will be happy if it happens for you.

Aghoris eat faeces, human flesh, do tantra to be spiritual.

Sadhus just meditate, live ascetic life to be spiritual.

Most Gurus follow texts and preach spirituality.

Athiest doesn't believe in any of these. They see logic in universe, while we or spiritual folk see the profoundness. Same thing, different views. No one is right or wrong, superior or inferior. You can go on seeing logic in all universe or spirituaity. Point is both don't have end, if keep on going.

In fact i wonder what my pet dog is thinking about all this nonsense. I mean he is just happy like that. No kriya yoga, no guru, no God...get it...

But if there is one suggestion, i can give you how i became like this then, I will be happy if you find a new method altogether.... Keep Seeking..if not this life, next life, no matter how many lives, how many forms you take, keep seeking...see one thing is for sure we all are seeking something PERMANENT or ETERNAL.
So don't worry about Time, Space and Results. Just keep seeking. If you don't belive in rebirth keep seeking but don't worry about results, missing enlightenment or accumulating sins or just dying like many who hardly know all these. Get the big picture.

Comment: So what should be the front end of life? I think it should be consciousness. What do you think?

 

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Hmm, but What about a person in Coma? Just a thought, not a wise crack. All i am saying what he says Doesn't apply to a person in coma or even for mental asylums.

And even your consciousness being front end also doesn't work. But both of you are not wrong.

I can see you are right in your context, he is also right, if you understand what he's telling.

i am able to understand the other side of the answer as well.

Basically you are asking if conscious is good choice, he's telling go beyond everything your human nature.

It's like this Feel is the same if you win, got a job, or in love,
Right. But isn't the pleasant experience same. Yes intensity varies but isn't the feel of pleasantness same when you got success and when you did charity or in love.

So be conscious and pleasant or go beyond human nature and be pleasant. Choice is yours. But again for a person in coma, so no one is wrong or right. It is just your choice.

Think. Pause. Got it.

Now all he's telling is there is an Unlimited Pleasant Experience. That's All.

But no way he's telling don't use your mind or stop being materialistic or dont fight in life, or dont go for aims.

He was asked question, he answered it. It made sense to me. Good.

But again if you ask me is it nonsense, yes as i said doesn't apply to people in coma, people in utter poverty, people under torcher, pyschos etc.

So, get the big picture. Are you able to see his perspective?

It's like i can go on pointing mistakes in Sadhguru.

But at same time i can go on saying he's telling truth.

It's like this, imagine we achieved everything in life, made whole planet perfect. All is fine. You are saying its Good.

But what if next day after your achievement whole planet gets wiped out or you just die.

Offcourse you did a great, great job but just when you are about to enjoy the best thing any human did to planet you die. Got it. So now is your achievement big.

Nothing, No One, Anything in entire Cosmos is the PERMANENT ETERNAL ULTIMATE truth.
Today Sadhguru can be right but imagine if all humans can take their conscious and load in a chip and become robots.
Now i need not eat, go to anywhere in universe, i can't die of old age.
I need to worry about health, environment, etc.
He's telling a different possibility that's all.

Just a matter of time, there will be a day where atleast all the data, emotions, thoughts a human has can be fed into robot. Vow, now you are robo. Getting it. So that means what i said also will look like crap.

Even Sun, planets, entire galaxy will vanish one day. Isn't it.

That is what he's trying to say. There is something beyond all our senses.

Comment: Jaggi is blabbering nonsense and pseudo-intellectual ishafied idiots will justify by saying that 'we have to understand the context

Reply:

Hmm, exactly if i see from your side, What about a person in Coma? Just a thought, not a wise crack. All i am saying what he says Doesn't apply to a person in coma or even for mental asylums.

But i am able to understand the other side of his answer.

Basically you are saying he's mindwashing, he's telling go beyond everything your human nature.

It's like this Feel is the same if you win, got a job, or in love,
Right. But isn't the pleasant experience same. Yes intensity varies but isn't the feel of pleasantness same when you got success and when you did charity or in love.

Think. Pause. Got it.

Now all he's telling is there is an Unlimited Pleasant Experience. That's All.

But no way he's telling don't use your mind or stop being materialistic or dont fight in life, or dont go for aims.

He was asked question, he answered it. It made sense to me. Good.

But again if you ask me is it nonsense, yes as i said doesn't apply to people in coma, people in utter poverty, people under torcher, pyschos etc.

So, get the big picture. If you are not able to see his perspective, good.

But does anywhere, anytime Sadhguru LITERALLY says everything he says is ULTIMATE TRUTH?

Does he say everyone should follow him?

It's like i can go on pointing mistakes in Sadhguru.

But at same time i can go on saying he's telling truth.

This is exactly what he's telling. Take everything with a grain of salt.

So if you feel Sadhguru is not making sense. Good but take it with a pinch of salt.

It's like this, imagine we achieved everything in life, made whole planet perfect. All is fine. You are saying its Good.

But what if next day after your achievement whole planet gets wiped out or you just die.

Offcourse you did a great, great job but just when you are about to enjoy the best thing any human did to planet you die. Got it. So now is your achievement big.

Nothing, No One, Anything in entire Cosmos is the PERMANENT ETERNAL ULTIMATE truth.
Today Sadhguru can be right but imagine if all humans can take their conscious and load in a chip and become robots.
Now i need not eat, go to anywhere in universe, i can't die of old age.
I need to worry about health, environment, etc.
He's telling a different possibility that's all.

Just a matter of time, there will be a day where atleast all the data, emotions, thoughts a human has can be fed into robot. Vow, now you are robo. Getting it. So that means what i said also will look like crap.

Even Sun, planets, entire galaxy will vanish one day. Isn't it. So my thoughts, your opinions or even Sadhguru's words will just vanish. This is what he's saying.

That is what he's trying to say. There is something beyond all our senses.