Okay, i agree you say I don't know the whole picture.
I am just ignoring the truth inspite of knowing everything.
And that finally what matters is Heaven and Hell is the option.
I agree with you.
Now what i am saying is okay, fine.
I am ready to go to hell(if it exists) for YOU. Yes, but are you willing to put your salvation/heaven on the line for me.
Your faith is true right.
You've been cleansed right.
Then why fear, for God is on your side.
All I am asking is are you ready to do the same for me.
So its like this imagine even if I am cheating you or mindwashing.
God knows i cheated you.
You were just trying to help me thinking i was not knowing what you know, or you sincerely wanted me to help or you just got tempted by me.
See, towards God your sincerity is there right, then why worry.
As i said, I am ready to go to hell for you, because i committed the sin of cheating/mindwashing you (if hell exists). I will ask Jesus/Allah, to not send you to hell. No matter what i do to you.
I am responsible for you if something happens, i will goto hell.
Yes, but are you willing to put your salvation/heaven on the line for me.
Get the point. Dig deep find the truth. Don't stop. Go deep. You will know God.
Friday 26 October 2018
Thursday 25 October 2018
Imagine There are Just 100 people on the Earth would you still be free or bound
See, it's simple.
Imagine there are just 100 people in this world for now.
Yes, see none of your stocks, investments, assets, success, fight against injustice, most of the things go away.
It's like say currently there is a big injustice going like say the place you are living in is just being exploited fully, the water is polluted, the food cost is high, corruption is too much. So much so that you are not being even allowed to survive.
Yes, its like this if someone is hitting you, yes do what you can.
If you feel hitting him back is right. Do it.
If you feel running away is going to solve it. Do it.
If you feel you making him understand like Bro wait, I am sorry, something like that. Do it.
Or even if you have any other ideas also. Do it.
This is the point.
Based on our current knowledge and tolerant levels, there is only so much even an enlightened being can also handle.
It's like if you hit him he will also atleast feel sad why these are people hitting me. Yes, he might bless you as well or forgive.
But just because a enlightened or person on spiritual also gets angry doesn't mean he is not spiritual. Remember he is in the body and world. How do you know if someone is spiritual because he is there in the material world.
So if you are spiritual and you get angry or you get attracted to material things its fine. But the point is now you are completely conscious of the actions, thoughts are you doing or thinking.
This is the difference.
What this means you are watching yourself but its no you.
It's like imagine God is watching you.
Yes now you are watching yourself.
Isn't this a place you want to be.
Isn't this what we all want to be.
See lets go through the usual route.
Say entire Universe somehow through science, super computer, knowledge or exceptional talent you just controlled the entire universe and everything is happening according to you.
See you feel happy but after some time, the nature of human is you will feel bored.
This is the where the problem starts, you start to do something where you will get entangled. You start to make a beautiful world and you know where it will end.
You forget that you had everything in control but still you wanted more.
This uncontrollable thing is what humans are all about.
Got it. You can call it mind, success, spirit, soul, life force, desire.
But whatever means like through spirituality, success, family, wealth, we achieve it, the dissatisfaction will always be there.
Because, yes even if you are after spirituality, you are always wanting it.
So there always be something you want.
Say you want to be spiritual and even if you reach there, you know what will happen, you will feel again is this all.
Becoz you are not understanding the whole picture.
There is nothing called as humans, You, spirit, soul.
Language is limited so we feel we have to get into something.
See thing is all humans are already there. In the zone.
Problem is we are already there.
Just need to realize.
See its like this, you might nothing compared to Bill Gates but spirituality wise even you are same to him. Because this is what is common from an atom to the cosmos and everything in between.
The rock, shiva, confidence, wealth, and even spirituality they are just tools. Because no matter how much you aspire to say, even be detached, the longing will never be fulfilled. Even the longing to be detached is an attachment. What if you lose it? You have a bondage, get it.
Get it.
You will not exist. This is where it is. But you are watching yourself.
Imagine there are just 100 people in this world for now.
Yes, see none of your stocks, investments, assets, success, fight against injustice, most of the things go away.
It's like say currently there is a big injustice going like say the place you are living in is just being exploited fully, the water is polluted, the food cost is high, corruption is too much. So much so that you are not being even allowed to survive.
Yes, its like this if someone is hitting you, yes do what you can.
If you feel hitting him back is right. Do it.
If you feel running away is going to solve it. Do it.
If you feel you making him understand like Bro wait, I am sorry, something like that. Do it.
Or even if you have any other ideas also. Do it.
This is the point.
Based on our current knowledge and tolerant levels, there is only so much even an enlightened being can also handle.
It's like if you hit him he will also atleast feel sad why these are people hitting me. Yes, he might bless you as well or forgive.
But just because a enlightened or person on spiritual also gets angry doesn't mean he is not spiritual. Remember he is in the body and world. How do you know if someone is spiritual because he is there in the material world.
So if you are spiritual and you get angry or you get attracted to material things its fine. But the point is now you are completely conscious of the actions, thoughts are you doing or thinking.
This is the difference.
What this means you are watching yourself but its no you.
It's like imagine God is watching you.
Yes now you are watching yourself.
Isn't this a place you want to be.
Isn't this what we all want to be.
See lets go through the usual route.
Say entire Universe somehow through science, super computer, knowledge or exceptional talent you just controlled the entire universe and everything is happening according to you.
See you feel happy but after some time, the nature of human is you will feel bored.
This is the where the problem starts, you start to do something where you will get entangled. You start to make a beautiful world and you know where it will end.
You forget that you had everything in control but still you wanted more.
This uncontrollable thing is what humans are all about.
Got it. You can call it mind, success, spirit, soul, life force, desire.
But whatever means like through spirituality, success, family, wealth, we achieve it, the dissatisfaction will always be there.
Because, yes even if you are after spirituality, you are always wanting it.
So there always be something you want.
Say you want to be spiritual and even if you reach there, you know what will happen, you will feel again is this all.
Becoz you are not understanding the whole picture.
There is nothing called as humans, You, spirit, soul.
Language is limited so we feel we have to get into something.
See thing is all humans are already there. In the zone.
Problem is we are already there.
Just need to realize.
See its like this, you might nothing compared to Bill Gates but spirituality wise even you are same to him. Because this is what is common from an atom to the cosmos and everything in between.
The rock, shiva, confidence, wealth, and even spirituality they are just tools. Because no matter how much you aspire to say, even be detached, the longing will never be fulfilled. Even the longing to be detached is an attachment. What if you lose it? You have a bondage, get it.
Get it.
You will not exist. This is where it is. But you are watching yourself.
Tuesday 23 October 2018
Theory of Evolution Explained In Dashavatar
Hi Bro, first thing we have to know context, situation, culture when a person is giving answer.
You know Grandma stories. At least, in India they are a craze. You think no big deal in it but in India, especially village or Hindus there is strong culture of story telling.
Now what Sadhguru said is in form of story. You want to know the facts in the story is correct or wrong, this is not the forum nor its possible.
But if you dig deep you can see if stories are true or false. Its like there are many ways to teach someone. I can teach you maths just as 2+2=4. I can teach 2 birds+2 birds =4. I can teach 3 crows+1parrot=4.
Ignore the story but did you know what makes up 4. See if you the number 4, then i need teach how you can count 4.
So its like Get the big picture. Your question now is on evolution. Now you say he dint prove the question.
But what Sadhguru said is see. He said billions of years first life started on earth on water. First was Algae, then coral, then fish, then whale.
Next life started like turtles, crocdiles, snakes. Then life started was earthworm, wild boars, lions, etc..
See point is now you know. Next we all will know all stages of life evolution. I m saying ignore the factual accuracy of the story.
Ok simple you study darwins theory of evolution not just part where man came from ape. That is just part of evolution.
From part where life started from beginning till homosapiens. As for purpose, he said in the start, even planet doesnt know.
Which means in India we usually are very emotional and respect others. So he dint say directly that humans have no purpose. He could have said tree gives oxygen. Animals eat trees. Carnivores eat those herbivores.
Then carnivorous die. Goto Soil. Soil helps grow tree. Cycle repeats. He dint want to bore the audience. Btw this was a multiple choice question.
Imagine if he answered the text book way. Plus he is also human. So dont worry if you still hate his answers. Its like not everyone like Eminem. Not everyone likes Britney. Not everyone likes Lady Gaga.
As for life being born. Bro its like this. He says astronomically-astrologically we can calculate when is the most fertile period a woman will conceive. Yes you say easily after so many days after periods.
That is your method. They use their method. You say why they have to sit and calculate so much. They can just use brains and calendar and find when after periods is the right. But this not the only thing astrologically they see.
A lot of things are seen. Now you dont trust astronomy/astrology. Again you have to dig deep find truth. But ask Sachin or Amitabh if they believe in Astrology. Yes astrology has its drawback but so does science.
But that is because the person who studies right, you know right humans are not perfect. Okay still dint get it. Buy any india calendar or panchang. See when the days rain is indicated in these calendars.
Trust me if 100 days rain is predicted in panchang 90 days you will it rains. Same calculation for humans life experts can but you have to dig deep, find genuine astrolger. And as i said humans can make errors.
So ask a good astrologer. 7 out of 10 predictions he will give correctly. Don't believe me or Sadhguru. These things are as he said 15,000 years.
India was invaded till 1947 itself if you see Mongols, chengiz khan, mughals, british etc. So things was damaged to maximum extent possible. In fact seeing this heritage, richness, technology only all invaders came.
You know Grandma stories. At least, in India they are a craze. You think no big deal in it but in India, especially village or Hindus there is strong culture of story telling.
Now what Sadhguru said is in form of story. You want to know the facts in the story is correct or wrong, this is not the forum nor its possible.
But if you dig deep you can see if stories are true or false. Its like there are many ways to teach someone. I can teach you maths just as 2+2=4. I can teach 2 birds+2 birds =4. I can teach 3 crows+1parrot=4.
Ignore the story but did you know what makes up 4. See if you the number 4, then i need teach how you can count 4.
So its like Get the big picture. Your question now is on evolution. Now you say he dint prove the question.
But what Sadhguru said is see. He said billions of years first life started on earth on water. First was Algae, then coral, then fish, then whale.
Next life started like turtles, crocdiles, snakes. Then life started was earthworm, wild boars, lions, etc..
See point is now you know. Next we all will know all stages of life evolution. I m saying ignore the factual accuracy of the story.
Ok simple you study darwins theory of evolution not just part where man came from ape. That is just part of evolution.
From part where life started from beginning till homosapiens. As for purpose, he said in the start, even planet doesnt know.
Which means in India we usually are very emotional and respect others. So he dint say directly that humans have no purpose. He could have said tree gives oxygen. Animals eat trees. Carnivores eat those herbivores.
Then carnivorous die. Goto Soil. Soil helps grow tree. Cycle repeats. He dint want to bore the audience. Btw this was a multiple choice question.
Imagine if he answered the text book way. Plus he is also human. So dont worry if you still hate his answers. Its like not everyone like Eminem. Not everyone likes Britney. Not everyone likes Lady Gaga.
As for life being born. Bro its like this. He says astronomically-astrologically we can calculate when is the most fertile period a woman will conceive. Yes you say easily after so many days after periods.
That is your method. They use their method. You say why they have to sit and calculate so much. They can just use brains and calendar and find when after periods is the right. But this not the only thing astrologically they see.
A lot of things are seen. Now you dont trust astronomy/astrology. Again you have to dig deep find truth. But ask Sachin or Amitabh if they believe in Astrology. Yes astrology has its drawback but so does science.
But that is because the person who studies right, you know right humans are not perfect. Okay still dint get it. Buy any india calendar or panchang. See when the days rain is indicated in these calendars.
Trust me if 100 days rain is predicted in panchang 90 days you will it rains. Same calculation for humans life experts can but you have to dig deep, find genuine astrolger. And as i said humans can make errors.
So ask a good astrologer. 7 out of 10 predictions he will give correctly. Don't believe me or Sadhguru. These things are as he said 15,000 years.
India was invaded till 1947 itself if you see Mongols, chengiz khan, mughals, british etc. So things was damaged to maximum extent possible. In fact seeing this heritage, richness, technology only all invaders came.
Theory of Evolution Explained Again In Dashavatar
"Mom, I want to become a genetic scientist. I am currently researching the evolution of man, Theory of evolution by Charles Darwin, have you heard of him? " Vasu asked.
His Mother sat next to him, smiled and said, "I know about Darwin, Vasu. But have you heard of Dashavatar?
The ten avatars of Vishnu?" Vasu replied 'no'. "Ok!
Then let me tell you what you and your Darwin don't know. Listen carefully- The first avatar was the Matsya avatar, it means the fish.
That is because life began in the water. Is that not right?" Vasu began to listen with a little more attention.
She continued, "Then came the Kurma Avatar which means the tortoise, because life moved from the water to the land. The amphibian! So the Tortoise denoted the evolution from sea to land.
Third avatar was Varaha: the wild boar, which meant the wild animals with not much intellect, you call them the Dinosaurs, correct?" Vasu nodded wide eyed.
"The fourth avatar was Narasimha: half man and half animal, the evolution from wild animals to intelligent beings.
Fifth, the Vaman avatar: the midget or dwarf, who could grow really tall. Do you know why that is? Because, there were two kinds of humans, Homo Erectus and Homo Sapiens and Homo Sapiens won that battle." Vasu could see that his Mother was in full flow and he was stupefied.
"The Sixth avatar was Parashuram: the man who wielded the axe, the man who was a cave and forest dweller, angry, and not social.
The seventh avatar was Ram: the first rational thinking social being, who practised and laid out the laws of society and the basis of human relationships.
The Eighth avatar was Balarama: a true farmer who showed value of agriculture in the life. The Ninth avatar was Krishna: the statesman, the politician, the diplomat, the Ambassador, the subtle interpreter, the lover who played the game of society and taught how to live and thrive in the adharmic (unrighteousness) social structure.
And finally, my boy, will come Kalki: the man you are working on. The man who will be genetically supreme." Vasu looked at his Mother speechless. "This is amazing Mom, how did you .... ?
This makes sense! She said, "Yes it does Vasu! We Indians knew some amazing things, but just didn't know how to pass it on scientifically. So we made them into mythological stories.
Mythology creates faith and makes man sensible. It is just the way you look at it - Religious or Scientific. Your call." Vasu touched the feet of his mother and hugged her. She kissed him smilingly.
Our mythology is not completely myth, proven multiple times. In fact, even science is not always perfect but we say its fine.
Did anywhere its mentioned whatever mentioned in Vedas is the ultimate truth and factually correct. It's people's interpretation.
Did Sadhguru tell anywhere whatever he is telling is the absolute truth. No. It's like one scientist says - one theory of evolution. Another scientist says - his theory of evolution.
You are ready to accept different theories of evolution because its science. Which means sometimes one theory is right.
Sometimes both can be wrong. After some years, the a new theory says the old theory was wrong. Science can change theories.
But when someone says in the name of spirituality we expect them to be absolute truth. BTW as i said, Sadhguru never says whatever he says is absolute truth. You don't agree, i a m okay.
Get the concept. Now you want to say fact is incorrect. Good, read Charles Darwin theory. But point is are both saying the same thing.
That is all. Reality is not always what we say. I say you are a creature made of atoms. Some one says your human. Insects see us as completely different.
Get the point. E=mc2. Everything has many different dimensions. Even Science, Spirituality, God. Everything. Nothing is completely comprehensible. Hope you get it. Can we say how many atoms are there in one drop of water.
No we can't. So what you say as Science also has its limits just because whatever it gives proof doesn't mean it is right. Because as i said science cannot completely tell about a drop of water also.
Yes, whatever it says it can prove but again after few years that can also become wrong. Get it. Point is Science also sees just one dimension of anything and that too at that point in time.
It is not complete. Nobody knows anything fully. Not even about one drop of blood. Till today science has not fully understood about one drop of blood.
Even if they understand that is again updated, corrected after few years. So get the point. Nothing is right or wrong. If you din't understand don't say is what we are saying.
Otherwise you are right in your own way of science while Sadhguru is right in his explanations. Question is are you ready to see from their perspective.
As i said about astrology, if you dig deep you will find 7 out of 10 times, a proper vedic astrologer will predict correctly.
Point is you don't understand how? You think how can someone sit and say what will happen. Then why people fail? Why false predictions? Is life predestined? All have to be understood in the context.
It's like do you know there always on earth quakes on earth but does everywhere earthquake kill people.
Same understand Astrology or spirituality has context. Then you can debate whether they are true. But still if you don't believe it works.
Good. But as i said, it works for Sachin, Mukesh Ambani and Amitabh. These are just few examples, I gave, hope you know why?
His Mother sat next to him, smiled and said, "I know about Darwin, Vasu. But have you heard of Dashavatar?
The ten avatars of Vishnu?" Vasu replied 'no'. "Ok!
Then let me tell you what you and your Darwin don't know. Listen carefully- The first avatar was the Matsya avatar, it means the fish.
That is because life began in the water. Is that not right?" Vasu began to listen with a little more attention.
She continued, "Then came the Kurma Avatar which means the tortoise, because life moved from the water to the land. The amphibian! So the Tortoise denoted the evolution from sea to land.
Third avatar was Varaha: the wild boar, which meant the wild animals with not much intellect, you call them the Dinosaurs, correct?" Vasu nodded wide eyed.
"The fourth avatar was Narasimha: half man and half animal, the evolution from wild animals to intelligent beings.
Fifth, the Vaman avatar: the midget or dwarf, who could grow really tall. Do you know why that is? Because, there were two kinds of humans, Homo Erectus and Homo Sapiens and Homo Sapiens won that battle." Vasu could see that his Mother was in full flow and he was stupefied.
"The Sixth avatar was Parashuram: the man who wielded the axe, the man who was a cave and forest dweller, angry, and not social.
The seventh avatar was Ram: the first rational thinking social being, who practised and laid out the laws of society and the basis of human relationships.
The Eighth avatar was Balarama: a true farmer who showed value of agriculture in the life. The Ninth avatar was Krishna: the statesman, the politician, the diplomat, the Ambassador, the subtle interpreter, the lover who played the game of society and taught how to live and thrive in the adharmic (unrighteousness) social structure.
And finally, my boy, will come Kalki: the man you are working on. The man who will be genetically supreme." Vasu looked at his Mother speechless. "This is amazing Mom, how did you .... ?
This makes sense! She said, "Yes it does Vasu! We Indians knew some amazing things, but just didn't know how to pass it on scientifically. So we made them into mythological stories.
Mythology creates faith and makes man sensible. It is just the way you look at it - Religious or Scientific. Your call." Vasu touched the feet of his mother and hugged her. She kissed him smilingly.
Our mythology is not completely myth, proven multiple times. In fact, even science is not always perfect but we say its fine.
Did anywhere its mentioned whatever mentioned in Vedas is the ultimate truth and factually correct. It's people's interpretation.
Did Sadhguru tell anywhere whatever he is telling is the absolute truth. No. It's like one scientist says - one theory of evolution. Another scientist says - his theory of evolution.
You are ready to accept different theories of evolution because its science. Which means sometimes one theory is right.
Sometimes both can be wrong. After some years, the a new theory says the old theory was wrong. Science can change theories.
But when someone says in the name of spirituality we expect them to be absolute truth. BTW as i said, Sadhguru never says whatever he says is absolute truth. You don't agree, i a m okay.
Get the concept. Now you want to say fact is incorrect. Good, read Charles Darwin theory. But point is are both saying the same thing.
That is all. Reality is not always what we say. I say you are a creature made of atoms. Some one says your human. Insects see us as completely different.
Get the point. E=mc2. Everything has many different dimensions. Even Science, Spirituality, God. Everything. Nothing is completely comprehensible. Hope you get it. Can we say how many atoms are there in one drop of water.
No we can't. So what you say as Science also has its limits just because whatever it gives proof doesn't mean it is right. Because as i said science cannot completely tell about a drop of water also.
Yes, whatever it says it can prove but again after few years that can also become wrong. Get it. Point is Science also sees just one dimension of anything and that too at that point in time.
It is not complete. Nobody knows anything fully. Not even about one drop of blood. Till today science has not fully understood about one drop of blood.
Even if they understand that is again updated, corrected after few years. So get the point. Nothing is right or wrong. If you din't understand don't say is what we are saying.
Otherwise you are right in your own way of science while Sadhguru is right in his explanations. Question is are you ready to see from their perspective.
As i said about astrology, if you dig deep you will find 7 out of 10 times, a proper vedic astrologer will predict correctly.
Point is you don't understand how? You think how can someone sit and say what will happen. Then why people fail? Why false predictions? Is life predestined? All have to be understood in the context.
It's like do you know there always on earth quakes on earth but does everywhere earthquake kill people.
Same understand Astrology or spirituality has context. Then you can debate whether they are true. But still if you don't believe it works.
Good. But as i said, it works for Sachin, Mukesh Ambani and Amitabh. These are just few examples, I gave, hope you know why?
Purpose of Human Life is NOTHING
I am not saying my answer is perfect and everyone will agree to it.
Everyone is free to disagree.
I just want to say that even if all the humans are just removed from the entire Earth for a moment.
Think. What will happen to the Earth.
Nothing.
Get it.
Try removing all the trees.
NO trees minus earth.
That's it.
NO Oxygen. Need i say more.
I leave that your imagination.
In fact, just remove all the insects.
See in a few weeks.
Entire Earth will be gone for a toss.
Now you might SAY science is advanced.
We will create something.
It's not a big deal.
Like we can handle it.
Humans will find a solution.
I am saying first of all should we admit that everything is connected.
Entire creatures on the earth is connected including humans.
Now what is wise, you tell me fixing something or maintaining something.
Why are we always using our intelligence to think we are separate from the situation.
I am not saying all our thinking is wrong, all technology is wrong.
I am just saying even if you remove all the inventions and if today human's left like they are 1000 years back we will still survive.
Yes, lot of people may die due to lack of modern technology. I am not denying and it is not right.
All i am saying is we should be in position to TRASH any technology, tool or invention to live without it the moment we want it.
It's like this imagine, all other creatures are being born the same they are till date since their creation. Atleast most of them with hardly any changes.
But look at humans, today hardly any babies will survive without vaccination.
That is what i am saying.
How many will risk not giving polio drops to their babies.
This is what we have done with inventions and technology.
We have become dependant on it.
Once it starts there is no end to it.
Vaccination leads to more vaccinations.
Dependancy on doctors.
Hospitals are must now.
Medicines are must.
No human on this earth from last 60 years would have been spared from medicines, injection or tablets. Yes, life span has increased but again see the population problem we have created.
Point is we never respected nature.
For our survival we did everything.
We never thought we are encroaching some other creatures soil, water, food, water, air. This is what i am saying.
How will we feel if all the monkeys, lions and all the wild animals start coming to our homes.
If they say, move over, our forest were here first.
You destroyed our forests.
We need water, food. Please get out of your home.
Don't you get it.
Insects, worms, snakes, butterflies, frogs, lizards, cockroaches, ants, zebras.
Imagine, just because other species don't have intelligence they are quite.
Or else trust me we don't deserve to even get hanged.
Even that punishment will not compensate the gross-crass injustice humans have done with the earth and all species.
And here we are thinking of purpose.
I say question is wrong. There is no purpose to human life.
As i said, least we can do is be part of this system with our intelligence.
Still din't get it.
Our survival depends on all the worms, insects, bees, frogs, trees and all species. They don't depend on us.
So if they survive, we will survive.
Then you can think about purpose of human life.
First survive.
Still din't get the seriousness.
Now only water is hardly available.
See what will happen in next 70 years.
Now don't say sea water, RO will get advanced.
That is the problem.
I am saying realize we humans=other creatures like trees, worms, etc. NOT SUPERIOR.
Otherwise, again after another 70 years, even sea water humans would have drank off. Maximum how many years. 400 years we might have sea water if we start converting sea water to potable water.
Don't underestimate stupidity of our human intelligence.
I am saying lets go back to the old ways.
Now you will say what about office, work, technology.
As i started in the beginning, even if all humans are removed from the earth, the earth will survive.
If earth only won't survive what is the use of your theories, talent, inventions, technology, financial plannings, tweets, medicines.
First come down, have the guts to agree we are actually having nothing special. We just are one among the species and the only useless creatures.
Sorry for the harsh words, but for now it doesn't matter.
You believe in God.
You are Atheist.
You are the next big thing on Earth.
You have plenty of problems.
You are nothing but just another species on the earth.
Humans=germs,virus,bacteria, amoeba, trees,plants, frogs, monkeys,lions.
For now humans survival depends on the tiny life in the soil.
They are already dying. Best part is they don't realize.
But every human if we don't save the earth, trust me our intelligence will ensure that we know the suffer to the very last with all our consciousness.
A tree doesn't know its a tree.
Animals they don't know that they are animals and they deserve equal rights like humans, because all of us share the same planet right.
Earth is not humans property right. All creatures have their claim on earth.
What if they put a case?
Please again don't say aliens, we will go out of space.
You tell me what is a smart/intelligent thing?
I know anything can happen.
Humans can die in natural calamity or through our own disasters.
Intelligent thing is to maintain the only planet on UNIVERSE or be stupid enough to not realize that we are also one of the species and think about aliens, fly away or invent some other technology and we will survive.
This is called using brains.
Okay here it is the entire EARTH is just a speck in the UNIVERSE.
If the earth is dropped in the Sun, in less than 0.1seconds entire Earth is Shish Kebab.
This is how big your company is.
This is how big your ambition is.
This is how big your war against anything is.
Point 1 second, put the earth in Sun. And we are not here..
Now don't get scared & go on environment crusade. I am saying have CLARITY that in that earth we are just a little big ANT with EMI, Loans, Credit Card, Interest in Movies, Investments, Fights, Quarrels, Love, Emotions, Family, International Borders, Terrorists, Gym, Salary, Hike, Yoga, Internet, Satellites, TV, Celebrities, Prison, Government, Spiritual Gurus, Roads, Money, Share Market, Drugs, fight for justice, kids, Business, Thoughts, Temples, Leaders, Personalities, GOD etc.
Nothing Big deal about it..just a speck, if we are dropped in the Sun. Less than 0.1 second.
so humans HAVE CLARITY AND DO THINGS. See the Big Picture.
Still din't get it minus the intelligence, what are humans made of some.
We have same things all the animals have skin,flesh,blood,cells,brains,heart, lungs etc.
Only Intelligence is extra.
Now we are ignoring the 99 percent and focussing on intelligence.
But intelligence should keep the 99 percent in mind about entire Earth/Universe/Creatures while thinking.
Problem is still we think with that one percent intelligence we will some how go on sorting out everything. It's like this. We are Smart because of our technology.
We are thinking from that perspective. We are so dependent on our intelligence. That only is wrong, isn't it.
It's like we are afraid to admit we cannot leave without intelligence.
Tell me if you can't leave without something is that the best thing.
Good thing in life should make you better. Not make dependent on it. NOT EVEN GOD. Otherwise, just like my wife, she loves me, she will do anything for me but she wants me atleast as her husband, if not for anything.
Tell me i made sure you achieved everything in life.
But is it right if i expect even a good relationship with you.
Isn't that my weakness, God created but he wants you to love you back.
No way, please God will be like question is only wrong. I created you. Dot.
It's like not the question of since humans (say eg: God/Jesus Christ) are dependent on other species (eg:Hell/Animals/Evil/Humans).
It's like even if we are not dependent on other species we should Live & Let Live.
Why do i need clause of environmental pollution to trigger me.
Why do i need hell to come back on path of God?
Why do i need motivation of heaven to be Good?
EVERYTHING IN UNIVERSE IS CONNECTED. EVERYTHING IN UNIVERSE HAS ATOMS. THAT'S IT. THINK.
Tell me what is true intelligence to be in fear - not to use intelligence.
To be arrogant - that intelligence enough. Okay, what if every human is only intelligent but physically disabled. How far will your intelligence take you. Intelligence of humans will gradually come down.
To be smart - Understand the limits of intelligence, anything can happen anytime, so use brains but know the limits.
BTW humans use less than 10% of brain. Maximum most of use is only 5 percent. So much for our intelligence. Nature is saying, that is all is required. Get it. You might start using 100% percent. But as i said what if you are born disabled.
See humans are machines or life. Human is also a life with blood, body etc.
Get it.
Choice is Yours. Again i m not saying which is intelligent thing to do.
If you put a person in forest and a frog, who will feel at home, except Bear Grylls.
I am not saying my answer is perfect and everyone will agree to it.
Everyone is free to disagree.
Be Whatever but don't be motivated.
Don't be scared.
Don't be happy.
You should remain same no matter what happens. Let circumstances do whatever. That is God. Be it Hell/Heaven or something else.
It's not like in next 100 years we took care of Earth and again we start our exploitation. Don't have fear, have CLARITY. Get the big picture. If you don't get it. Be calm, Be cool. Okay fine. I don't agree with this guy.
Everyone is free to disagree.
I just want to say that even if all the humans are just removed from the entire Earth for a moment.
Think. What will happen to the Earth.
Nothing.
Get it.
Try removing all the trees.
NO trees minus earth.
That's it.
NO Oxygen. Need i say more.
I leave that your imagination.
In fact, just remove all the insects.
See in a few weeks.
Entire Earth will be gone for a toss.
Now you might SAY science is advanced.
We will create something.
It's not a big deal.
Like we can handle it.
Humans will find a solution.
I am saying first of all should we admit that everything is connected.
Entire creatures on the earth is connected including humans.
Now what is wise, you tell me fixing something or maintaining something.
Why are we always using our intelligence to think we are separate from the situation.
I am not saying all our thinking is wrong, all technology is wrong.
I am just saying even if you remove all the inventions and if today human's left like they are 1000 years back we will still survive.
Yes, lot of people may die due to lack of modern technology. I am not denying and it is not right.
All i am saying is we should be in position to TRASH any technology, tool or invention to live without it the moment we want it.
It's like this imagine, all other creatures are being born the same they are till date since their creation. Atleast most of them with hardly any changes.
But look at humans, today hardly any babies will survive without vaccination.
That is what i am saying.
How many will risk not giving polio drops to their babies.
This is what we have done with inventions and technology.
We have become dependant on it.
Once it starts there is no end to it.
Vaccination leads to more vaccinations.
Dependancy on doctors.
Hospitals are must now.
Medicines are must.
No human on this earth from last 60 years would have been spared from medicines, injection or tablets. Yes, life span has increased but again see the population problem we have created.
Point is we never respected nature.
For our survival we did everything.
We never thought we are encroaching some other creatures soil, water, food, water, air. This is what i am saying.
How will we feel if all the monkeys, lions and all the wild animals start coming to our homes.
If they say, move over, our forest were here first.
You destroyed our forests.
We need water, food. Please get out of your home.
Don't you get it.
Insects, worms, snakes, butterflies, frogs, lizards, cockroaches, ants, zebras.
Imagine, just because other species don't have intelligence they are quite.
Or else trust me we don't deserve to even get hanged.
Even that punishment will not compensate the gross-crass injustice humans have done with the earth and all species.
And here we are thinking of purpose.
I say question is wrong. There is no purpose to human life.
As i said, least we can do is be part of this system with our intelligence.
Still din't get it.
Our survival depends on all the worms, insects, bees, frogs, trees and all species. They don't depend on us.
So if they survive, we will survive.
Then you can think about purpose of human life.
First survive.
Still din't get the seriousness.
Now only water is hardly available.
See what will happen in next 70 years.
Now don't say sea water, RO will get advanced.
That is the problem.
I am saying realize we humans=other creatures like trees, worms, etc. NOT SUPERIOR.
Otherwise, again after another 70 years, even sea water humans would have drank off. Maximum how many years. 400 years we might have sea water if we start converting sea water to potable water.
Don't underestimate stupidity of our human intelligence.
I am saying lets go back to the old ways.
Now you will say what about office, work, technology.
As i started in the beginning, even if all humans are removed from the earth, the earth will survive.
If earth only won't survive what is the use of your theories, talent, inventions, technology, financial plannings, tweets, medicines.
First come down, have the guts to agree we are actually having nothing special. We just are one among the species and the only useless creatures.
Sorry for the harsh words, but for now it doesn't matter.
You believe in God.
You are Atheist.
You are the next big thing on Earth.
You have plenty of problems.
You are nothing but just another species on the earth.
Humans=germs,virus,bacteria, amoeba, trees,plants, frogs, monkeys,lions.
For now humans survival depends on the tiny life in the soil.
They are already dying. Best part is they don't realize.
But every human if we don't save the earth, trust me our intelligence will ensure that we know the suffer to the very last with all our consciousness.
A tree doesn't know its a tree.
Animals they don't know that they are animals and they deserve equal rights like humans, because all of us share the same planet right.
Earth is not humans property right. All creatures have their claim on earth.
What if they put a case?
Please again don't say aliens, we will go out of space.
You tell me what is a smart/intelligent thing?
I know anything can happen.
Humans can die in natural calamity or through our own disasters.
Intelligent thing is to maintain the only planet on UNIVERSE or be stupid enough to not realize that we are also one of the species and think about aliens, fly away or invent some other technology and we will survive.
This is called using brains.
Okay here it is the entire EARTH is just a speck in the UNIVERSE.
If the earth is dropped in the Sun, in less than 0.1seconds entire Earth is Shish Kebab.
This is how big your company is.
This is how big your ambition is.
This is how big your war against anything is.
Point 1 second, put the earth in Sun. And we are not here..
Now don't get scared & go on environment crusade. I am saying have CLARITY that in that earth we are just a little big ANT with EMI, Loans, Credit Card, Interest in Movies, Investments, Fights, Quarrels, Love, Emotions, Family, International Borders, Terrorists, Gym, Salary, Hike, Yoga, Internet, Satellites, TV, Celebrities, Prison, Government, Spiritual Gurus, Roads, Money, Share Market, Drugs, fight for justice, kids, Business, Thoughts, Temples, Leaders, Personalities, GOD etc.
Nothing Big deal about it..just a speck, if we are dropped in the Sun. Less than 0.1 second.
so humans HAVE CLARITY AND DO THINGS. See the Big Picture.
Still din't get it minus the intelligence, what are humans made of some.
We have same things all the animals have skin,flesh,blood,cells,brains,heart, lungs etc.
Only Intelligence is extra.
Now we are ignoring the 99 percent and focussing on intelligence.
But intelligence should keep the 99 percent in mind about entire Earth/Universe/Creatures while thinking.
Problem is still we think with that one percent intelligence we will some how go on sorting out everything. It's like this. We are Smart because of our technology.
We are thinking from that perspective. We are so dependent on our intelligence. That only is wrong, isn't it.
It's like we are afraid to admit we cannot leave without intelligence.
Tell me if you can't leave without something is that the best thing.
Good thing in life should make you better. Not make dependent on it. NOT EVEN GOD. Otherwise, just like my wife, she loves me, she will do anything for me but she wants me atleast as her husband, if not for anything.
Tell me i made sure you achieved everything in life.
But is it right if i expect even a good relationship with you.
Isn't that my weakness, God created but he wants you to love you back.
No way, please God will be like question is only wrong. I created you. Dot.
It's like not the question of since humans (say eg: God/Jesus Christ) are dependent on other species (eg:Hell/Animals/Evil/Humans).
It's like even if we are not dependent on other species we should Live & Let Live.
Why do i need clause of environmental pollution to trigger me.
Why do i need hell to come back on path of God?
Why do i need motivation of heaven to be Good?
EVERYTHING IN UNIVERSE IS CONNECTED. EVERYTHING IN UNIVERSE HAS ATOMS. THAT'S IT. THINK.
Tell me what is true intelligence to be in fear - not to use intelligence.
To be arrogant - that intelligence enough. Okay, what if every human is only intelligent but physically disabled. How far will your intelligence take you. Intelligence of humans will gradually come down.
To be smart - Understand the limits of intelligence, anything can happen anytime, so use brains but know the limits.
BTW humans use less than 10% of brain. Maximum most of use is only 5 percent. So much for our intelligence. Nature is saying, that is all is required. Get it. You might start using 100% percent. But as i said what if you are born disabled.
See humans are machines or life. Human is also a life with blood, body etc.
Get it.
Choice is Yours. Again i m not saying which is intelligent thing to do.
If you put a person in forest and a frog, who will feel at home, except Bear Grylls.
I am not saying my answer is perfect and everyone will agree to it.
Everyone is free to disagree.
Be Whatever but don't be motivated.
Don't be scared.
Don't be happy.
You should remain same no matter what happens. Let circumstances do whatever. That is God. Be it Hell/Heaven or something else.
It's not like in next 100 years we took care of Earth and again we start our exploitation. Don't have fear, have CLARITY. Get the big picture. If you don't get it. Be calm, Be cool. Okay fine. I don't agree with this guy.
Monday 22 October 2018
Judgement Day Let's Judge
See its very simple.
I consider that people know when i am speaking about Judgement Day in Bible/Quran/Kalki Avatar. It is not just about judgement but right from let there be light to Adam to Jesus to Prophet Mohammed(PBUH) to the final judgement day.
If not the facts, hope we know the concept.
Great, now that we have basics established let's go to the Judgement Day.
Usually its not good to take something out of context and judge.
But as i said i consider we all know the context.
So my point is I am not saying Judgement Day is wrong at all. I am not saying it will not happen.
I am just saying can they prepone judgement day -Yes.
Will God send you to hell on Judgement Day those who have not believed - Yes.
Do i need not worry about Judgement Day - Your Choice.
But i don't care about Judgement Day- Yes, you are also right. How?
Simple, See its plain simple.
I know what happened from Adam to Ibrahim(Abraham) to Noah.
Then Jesus came. Prophet Mohammed (PBUH) came and he was the last messenger.
Armageddon will happen.
I know Kalki, Jesus & Allah will come.
See any person can be put in coma today with medical science. So if all the people in the world are put in Coma. What will#God do now heaven, hell or what will even a Atheist in coma prove. What happens to Bible, Quran, Temples, Idols. Live & Let Live.Get the point. I know We are born in Sin.
All i am saying is I am simply not bothered.
It's like i said all are in Coma. Then God will put the person in hell who put us in Coma. Rest all like new born, believers, baptized, born again will goto heaven.
Those who din't bother will goto hell. Okay, they deserved it for not ignoring God.
What about those who were in dilemma to believe Jesus/Allah/Kalki?
God had given free will. Those people neither denied nor accepted.
It's like i took 3 years to believe in Jesus. Now i still believe in Jesus.
See, Adam committed Sin.
I am sinner.
I had freewill so before I could choose, this is freewill things happened. I want justice
It looks more like freewill *Conditions Apply or *follow conditions like hidden costs.
I was sincere, I just wanted to be damn sure before I believed Jesus. But then same if something happens and Judgement day happens to someone else.
Is there any rule that any person should believe God in so many days?
Or is there any concept of intermediary Hell?
BTW i don't read the bible.
I don't share the bible.
But I don't mind going to church.
Yes, i believe Jesus.
Anyway moving, It's like we know right, people are mindwashed to become terrorists.
Imagine few people are to create a drug that will put all humans in coma. Not kill them, not affect them. Just coma.
Yes, around 100 people, hire them, train them.
On that based on all the countries in the world they just need to buy a few charter planes or teach them to learn flying.
On fine day, they can all just plan and through air, the capsules be thrown all over earth or can be leaked or do the silent explosion.
Just need to carry that in a plane.
Can be spread throughout the world through say - spray, cloud burst, capsule/silent bomb etc. No sound, but big gas expansion. Full earth 10 years only cyanide.
Yes not even explosion. The bomb impact will be big.
Like a silent atom bomb. Like stool passed. Chuckles.
Yes few atom bombs but no sound but impact is same.
Each bomb no sound when explode but the drug is in air/atmosphere for 10 years.
Once humans inhale it is inside their system.
And all plants are now giving oxygen that will cause coma.
or wait Resident Evil, non-violence version. Yes humans T-virus.
But humans are just zombies. No good/bad. Just pure vegetarian zombies.
Anyway here's another - even plants also have so much control on us.
We think we are humans.
If all plants are killed in this world only we are gone case.
In fact the gas plan can be dropped.
What Judgement Day are we talking.
Need not even create a plan.
Yes, same people who are hired. If they are told don't become terrorists. Just cut trees, plants anything that gives oxygen.
In few years, the person will achieve Judgement Day. But the cutters will goto hell along with the mastermind and rest will goto heaven. God checkmated is it?
So one psycho can just volunteer to put everyone in coma and choose few more cracks to execute the mission. So sad, those crack people went to hell, here we did all the nonsense and end up in heaven suddenly without even knowing.
No fighting of good and evil also.
No waiting for second coming.
Silently if everyone just decide to cut all the trees, plants anything that gives oxygen. Before we realize its all gone.
What are we talking?
All humans gone.
God bedazzled.
This is because we think only humans and only God.
Wake up, i say there are lot more things.
Get the big picture. God is God for every creature.
I am not saying you are wrong. Eat, do whatever.
I am saying please Live and Let Live.
See what is the worst case scenario.
Judgement Day. Hell/Heaven as per the divine word.
Let me tell you there is something worse and its not even evil. Its ENVIRONMENTAL.
I said okay what if someone pre-pones by just cutting all the flora in the world.
Don't say its difficult.
It's not even called Armageddon.
Becoz we think God will punish for our sins, we think these things.
I am saying imagine if God, yes just assume God will not punish for sins.
Then what will do. Anyway no purpose other chatting to God is it.
A tree - becomes manure, gives fruits to animals, gives oxygen to other life, shade, keeps water cycle going, its a medicine, used for huts/shelter, & don't forget they were our first garments as well.
Going by current word of God, Currently, it looks like we are just delaying whatever will happen. So let us pre-pone it
I am not saying good will happen or bad will happen.
Get the big picture.
Forget Armageddon. Good vs Evil people and God Second Coming.
I am saying don't get scared. Let Judgement Day happen when it will happen.
I am saying, let's think about saving all the other creatures. Ignore Judgement Day. Let Lucifer/Satan & God do his job.
As it turns out, humans would be in big trouble if insects disappeared. Within 50 years, all life on Earth would end.
"If insects were to disappear, the world would fall apart — there's no two ways about it.
Yes, there would no longer be those pesky mosquito bites, no flies constantly buzzing around your head, no wasp stings, and no more insect-spread diseases such as malaria, west nile, or dengue fever — which kill hundreds of thousands of people every year. Farmers would no longer need to use harsh pesticides to protect against insects. According to the United States Department of Agriculture, more than 500 million pounds of chemicals are used annually to fight against bug infestations.
That sounds pretty good right? Too bad most of us wouldn’t be able to reap the benefits… most of us would starve to death. Approximately 80 percent of all Earth plants are angiosperms, or flowering plants, that require pollination from either bees, butterflies or other pollinating insects. Sometimes the wind and animals are able to assist with pollination, but the majority is done by insects. Without these pollinators, most plant life on Earth would disappear.
What humans will do then, forget Evil, think Green. So Environment is powerful then God is it? Point is Live & Let Live every Human & creature.
Nothing else matters.
Get the big picture.
Between 50 and 90 percent of the human diet comes from flowering plants, since angiosperms include the grains wheat and rice, as well as fruits and vegetables. These food staples also make up the diets of the animals that people eat, including chickens, cows, pigs and most freshwater fish. Most of our food is insect-dependent. If insects disappear, a lot of mammals and birds disappear, too, because if you don't have insects pollinating, even those animals that don't eat insects won't have fruit and foliage to eat. It does have a domino effect.
It gets worse.
Have you ever thought it would be a good thing if dead trees, animal carcasses and human bodies did not decay as fast as they do now? Well that is exactly what would happen. Although there would still be bacteria and fungi, insects are also a huge part of the decomposing process; therefore, decomposition would take much longer. Just imagine piles and piles of dead things.
What else could go wrong?
There would no longer be silk or honey. If you have been following the news, we are seeing a massive decline in honeybees today — mainly because of pesticide exposure, climate change and habitat loss. It may not be that much of a stretch to imagine a world without these dedicated pollinators.
So the next time you feel the need to kill a bug hiding in one of the corners of your house, maybe do what I do — grab a cup and a piece of paper and take it outside. Not only are you saving the life of a fellow species we share this planet with, you are doing all of humankind an enormous favor.
This Judgement Day is getting easier. Now no need to even hire people.
Can just start online.
Start a group to kill all the insects in the world.
As it turns out, humans would be in big trouble if insects disappeared. Within 50 years, all life on Earth would end.
I know science may invent capsules to eat as supplements.
I know may be science will create new insects.
But don't you get it.
Isn't your foundations SHAKING. Think.
Wait let me make it more easier. Even Judgement Day will start to get scared.
If all the honey bees in the world are killed. Just honey bees.
They are critical pollinators: they pollinate 70 of the around 100 crop species that feed 90% of the world.Honey bees are responsible for $30 billion a year in crops. That's only the start. We may lose all the plants that bees pollinate, all of the animals that eat those plants and so on up the food chain.
So now yes, we have handful of few select things to eat. Vow Great this is worse than Judgement Day and i thought Judgement Day was bad. Man i need food not for the adults at least for sick,babies, old.
Let all the other humans starve. Later i will fight for good vs evil battle.
Don't you get it. Get the big picture.
I am not saying you are wrong.
But nobody is wrong as well.
Do what is best. But Live & Let Live humans & all creatures.
Let any one believe anything or don't believe anything.
Guys, don't fight. God is everywhere in all the things he has created.
Need i say more, just becoz you have brains..you are not superior.
Don't blame everything on God. I had rather get punished for killing the environment like insects, ants, honey bees then being a evil person on Judgement Day who only spread evil for humans.
Imagine a person, who made entire world green and gave a good earth.
But he killed all men and he was the antichrist. For all the other creatures Antichrist is the God. Vow..
So its not even Good vs Evil. Its Man vs Wild and lucifer just needs to go good to animals.
He need not even simply waste his time inside our spirits and wasting his time since resurrection.
Now Don't say Antichrist has to be like this and that only. If he is the devil, the antichrist what you say, then he just needs to be saviour of all humans and kill all other flora & fauna.
Vow, suddenly Lucifer has a easy job to checkmate God.
Even if God wins, man at the cost of what, killing all animals, plants.
Imagine if Lucifer controls all the animals and makes them evil and commit self suicide. He can do that right.
All animals and trees if lucifer commands he can just make them suicide. Now God is in for some serious deadlock.
All the ghosts went into pigs. So don't say animals don't receive lucifer.
Lucifer just needs to choose few animal or plant species. Not even all.
Its become God vs Environment supported by Lucifer. Vow.
Lucifer is not even fighting with God, he just checkmated him.
Jokes apart. First forget God. Be humans, its okay even if you are sinner.
Earth doesn't need you. So you better keep mother Earth in good books.
Later think about Father God in Heaven.
We need animals, insects and all other creatures. God is everywhere.
It is what you believe which is fine. But don't argue about that guru or this guru. This God, That God.
Finally understand We humans are not religion. We are not what word says. Ask other the tree, worms, insects, they will tell you, your true place.
First use your brain.
Believe. Let others Believe. Don't fight. Go on.
NOBODY NEEDS HUMANS IN NATURE/EARTH. NOT EVEN TREES & PLANTS.
EVEN ANIMALS GIVE CO2 TO TREES. SO NOW..WHAT THE HELL ARE WE AFRAID OF?
Please....i leave the judgement DAY to you...Judge better..Don't get scared and Judge.
And even if we survive killing all insects, honey bees, or coma gas, then it was Science that saved you. So all the Atheists are you God? But wait, you said no God right..But wait now you guys are God..Wait..What...Hey...
Can i think something else, like there is no Judgement Day - Yes. Even you are right. Point is Live & Let Live Humans and all Creatures.
If none of us worship God also it doesn't matter. For now we need to save other creatures for us to live. Everything is connected, atleast realize now.
Fight less with other fellow humans atleast not in God's name.
I consider that people know when i am speaking about Judgement Day in Bible/Quran/Kalki Avatar. It is not just about judgement but right from let there be light to Adam to Jesus to Prophet Mohammed(PBUH) to the final judgement day.
If not the facts, hope we know the concept.
Great, now that we have basics established let's go to the Judgement Day.
Usually its not good to take something out of context and judge.
But as i said i consider we all know the context.
So my point is I am not saying Judgement Day is wrong at all. I am not saying it will not happen.
I am just saying can they prepone judgement day -Yes.
Will God send you to hell on Judgement Day those who have not believed - Yes.
Do i need not worry about Judgement Day - Your Choice.
But i don't care about Judgement Day- Yes, you are also right. How?
Simple, See its plain simple.
I know what happened from Adam to Ibrahim(Abraham) to Noah.
Then Jesus came. Prophet Mohammed (PBUH) came and he was the last messenger.
Armageddon will happen.
I know Kalki, Jesus & Allah will come.
See any person can be put in coma today with medical science. So if all the people in the world are put in Coma. What will
All i am saying is I am simply not bothered.
It's like i said all are in Coma. Then God will put the person in hell who put us in Coma. Rest all like new born, believers, baptized, born again will goto heaven.
Those who din't bother will goto hell. Okay, they deserved it for not ignoring God.
What about those who were in dilemma to believe Jesus/Allah/Kalki?
God had given free will. Those people neither denied nor accepted.
It's like i took 3 years to believe in Jesus. Now i still believe in Jesus.
See, Adam committed Sin.
I am sinner.
I had freewill so before I could choose, this is freewill things happened. I want justice
It looks more like freewill *Conditions Apply or *follow conditions like hidden costs.
I was sincere, I just wanted to be damn sure before I believed Jesus. But then same if something happens and Judgement day happens to someone else.
Is there any rule that any person should believe God in so many days?
Or is there any concept of intermediary Hell?
BTW i don't read the bible.
I don't share the bible.
But I don't mind going to church.
Yes, i believe Jesus.
Anyway moving, It's like we know right, people are mindwashed to become terrorists.
Imagine few people are to create a drug that will put all humans in coma. Not kill them, not affect them. Just coma.
Yes, around 100 people, hire them, train them.
On that based on all the countries in the world they just need to buy a few charter planes or teach them to learn flying.
On fine day, they can all just plan and through air, the capsules be thrown all over earth or can be leaked or do the silent explosion.
Just need to carry that in a plane.
Can be spread throughout the world through say - spray, cloud burst, capsule/silent bomb etc. No sound, but big gas expansion. Full earth 10 years only cyanide.
Yes not even explosion. The bomb impact will be big.
Like a silent atom bomb. Like stool passed. Chuckles.
Yes few atom bombs but no sound but impact is same.
Each bomb no sound when explode but the drug is in air/atmosphere for 10 years.
Once humans inhale it is inside their system.
And all plants are now giving oxygen that will cause coma.
or wait Resident Evil, non-violence version. Yes humans T-virus.
But humans are just zombies. No good/bad. Just pure vegetarian zombies.
Anyway here's another - even plants also have so much control on us.
We think we are humans.
If all plants are killed in this world only we are gone case.
In fact the gas plan can be dropped.
What Judgement Day are we talking.
Need not even create a plan.
Yes, same people who are hired. If they are told don't become terrorists. Just cut trees, plants anything that gives oxygen.
In few years, the person will achieve Judgement Day. But the cutters will goto hell along with the mastermind and rest will goto heaven. God checkmated is it?
So one psycho can just volunteer to put everyone in coma and choose few more cracks to execute the mission. So sad, those crack people went to hell, here we did all the nonsense and end up in heaven suddenly without even knowing.
No fighting of good and evil also.
No waiting for second coming.
Silently if everyone just decide to cut all the trees, plants anything that gives oxygen. Before we realize its all gone.
What are we talking?
All humans gone.
God bedazzled.
This is because we think only humans and only God.
Wake up, i say there are lot more things.
Get the big picture. God is God for every creature.
I am not saying you are wrong. Eat, do whatever.
I am saying please Live and Let Live.
See what is the worst case scenario.
Judgement Day. Hell/Heaven as per the divine word.
Let me tell you there is something worse and its not even evil. Its ENVIRONMENTAL.
I said okay what if someone pre-pones by just cutting all the flora in the world.
Don't say its difficult.
It's not even called Armageddon.
Becoz we think God will punish for our sins, we think these things.
I am saying imagine if God, yes just assume God will not punish for sins.
Then what will do. Anyway no purpose other chatting to God is it.
A tree - becomes manure, gives fruits to animals, gives oxygen to other life, shade, keeps water cycle going, its a medicine, used for huts/shelter, & don't forget they were our first garments as well.
Going by current word of God, Currently, it looks like we are just delaying whatever will happen. So let us pre-pone it
I am not saying good will happen or bad will happen.
Get the big picture.
Forget Armageddon. Good vs Evil people and God Second Coming.
I am saying don't get scared. Let Judgement Day happen when it will happen.
I am saying, let's think about saving all the other creatures. Ignore Judgement Day. Let Lucifer/Satan & God do his job.
A common reaction when people see a bug is, “Eww… gross,” or “Kill it with fire!” But have you ever thought about how important these little creatures are to the Earth, and the survival of the human race?
As it turns out, humans would be in big trouble if insects disappeared. Within 50 years, all life on Earth would end.
"If insects were to disappear, the world would fall apart — there's no two ways about it.
Yes, there would no longer be those pesky mosquito bites, no flies constantly buzzing around your head, no wasp stings, and no more insect-spread diseases such as malaria, west nile, or dengue fever — which kill hundreds of thousands of people every year. Farmers would no longer need to use harsh pesticides to protect against insects. According to the United States Department of Agriculture, more than 500 million pounds of chemicals are used annually to fight against bug infestations.
That sounds pretty good right? Too bad most of us wouldn’t be able to reap the benefits… most of us would starve to death. Approximately 80 percent of all Earth plants are angiosperms, or flowering plants, that require pollination from either bees, butterflies or other pollinating insects. Sometimes the wind and animals are able to assist with pollination, but the majority is done by insects. Without these pollinators, most plant life on Earth would disappear.
What humans will do then, forget Evil, think Green. So Environment is powerful then God is it? Point is Live & Let Live every Human & creature.
Nothing else matters.
Get the big picture.
Between 50 and 90 percent of the human diet comes from flowering plants, since angiosperms include the grains wheat and rice, as well as fruits and vegetables. These food staples also make up the diets of the animals that people eat, including chickens, cows, pigs and most freshwater fish. Most of our food is insect-dependent. If insects disappear, a lot of mammals and birds disappear, too, because if you don't have insects pollinating, even those animals that don't eat insects won't have fruit and foliage to eat. It does have a domino effect.
It gets worse.
Have you ever thought it would be a good thing if dead trees, animal carcasses and human bodies did not decay as fast as they do now? Well that is exactly what would happen. Although there would still be bacteria and fungi, insects are also a huge part of the decomposing process; therefore, decomposition would take much longer. Just imagine piles and piles of dead things.
What else could go wrong?
There would no longer be silk or honey. If you have been following the news, we are seeing a massive decline in honeybees today — mainly because of pesticide exposure, climate change and habitat loss. It may not be that much of a stretch to imagine a world without these dedicated pollinators.
So the next time you feel the need to kill a bug hiding in one of the corners of your house, maybe do what I do — grab a cup and a piece of paper and take it outside. Not only are you saving the life of a fellow species we share this planet with, you are doing all of humankind an enormous favor.
This Judgement Day is getting easier. Now no need to even hire people.
Can just start online.
Start a group to kill all the insects in the world.
As it turns out, humans would be in big trouble if insects disappeared. Within 50 years, all life on Earth would end.
I know science may invent capsules to eat as supplements.
I know may be science will create new insects.
But don't you get it.
Isn't your foundations SHAKING. Think.
Wait let me make it more easier. Even Judgement Day will start to get scared.
If all the honey bees in the world are killed. Just honey bees.
They are critical pollinators: they pollinate 70 of the around 100 crop species that feed 90% of the world.Honey bees are responsible for $30 billion a year in crops. That's only the start. We may lose all the plants that bees pollinate, all of the animals that eat those plants and so on up the food chain.
So now yes, we have handful of few select things to eat. Vow Great this is worse than Judgement Day and i thought Judgement Day was bad. Man i need food not for the adults at least for sick,babies, old.
Let all the other humans starve. Later i will fight for good vs evil battle.
Don't you get it. Get the big picture.
I am not saying you are wrong.
But nobody is wrong as well.
Do what is best. But Live & Let Live humans & all creatures.
Let any one believe anything or don't believe anything.
Guys, don't fight. God is everywhere in all the things he has created.
Need i say more, just becoz you have brains..you are not superior.
Don't blame everything on God. I had rather get punished for killing the environment like insects, ants, honey bees then being a evil person on Judgement Day who only spread evil for humans.
Imagine a person, who made entire world green and gave a good earth.
But he killed all men and he was the antichrist. For all the other creatures Antichrist is the God. Vow..
So its not even Good vs Evil. Its Man vs Wild and lucifer just needs to go good to animals.
He need not even simply waste his time inside our spirits and wasting his time since resurrection.
Now Don't say Antichrist has to be like this and that only. If he is the devil, the antichrist what you say, then he just needs to be saviour of all humans and kill all other flora & fauna.
Vow, suddenly Lucifer has a easy job to checkmate God.
Even if God wins, man at the cost of what, killing all animals, plants.
Imagine if Lucifer controls all the animals and makes them evil and commit self suicide. He can do that right.
All animals and trees if lucifer commands he can just make them suicide. Now God is in for some serious deadlock.
All the ghosts went into pigs. So don't say animals don't receive lucifer.
Lucifer just needs to choose few animal or plant species. Not even all.
Its become God vs Environment supported by Lucifer. Vow.
Lucifer is not even fighting with God, he just checkmated him.
Jokes apart. First forget God. Be humans, its okay even if you are sinner.
Earth doesn't need you. So you better keep mother Earth in good books.
Later think about Father God in Heaven.
We need animals, insects and all other creatures. God is everywhere.
It is what you believe which is fine. But don't argue about that guru or this guru. This God, That God.
Finally understand We humans are not religion. We are not what word says. Ask other the tree, worms, insects, they will tell you, your true place.
First use your brain.
Believe. Let others Believe. Don't fight. Go on.
NOBODY NEEDS HUMANS IN NATURE/EARTH. NOT EVEN TREES & PLANTS.
EVEN ANIMALS GIVE CO2 TO TREES. SO NOW..WHAT THE HELL ARE WE AFRAID OF?
Please....i leave the judgement DAY to you...Judge better..Don't get scared and Judge.
And even if we survive killing all insects, honey bees, or coma gas, then it was Science that saved you. So all the Atheists are you God? But wait, you said no God right..But wait now you guys are God..Wait..What...Hey...
Can i think something else, like there is no Judgement Day - Yes. Even you are right. Point is Live & Let Live Humans and all Creatures.
If none of us worship God also it doesn't matter. For now we need to save other creatures for us to live. Everything is connected, atleast realize now.
Fight less with other fellow humans atleast not in God's name.
That God Go This God. This God Go That God. Atheists Says No God. Let's Explore
Spirituality is not something you need to reach or acquire.
Its not like you need to become a businessman.
You need to be spiritual.
You can be rich and spiritual.
You can be poor and spiritual.
You can be evil and spiritual. It's like i believe God but i am not able to get rid of my addiction.
Or what if you want to be just Practical.
How for example?
There is a serial rapist. He is in pscyhology ward.
One day in psychiatry hospital, there is a cardiac arrest to the psychiatrist who is a young female.
It's raining heavily, no one else , no other doctors available.
You know what, they have know option but to call the serial rapist who was also a doctor.
Now which was superior? The logical practical guys who thought lets take a risk and allow the psycho to treat the female doctor.
Or the Spiritual side of the Psycho which finally came out to help the female doctor.
I say both are right and both are wrong.
How? See practically they passed because the psycho treated the female doctor.
But practically they failed because what will a serial psycho rapist do.
Spiritually the pscyho rapist passed because he treated the female doctor.
Spritually the psycho rapist failed because all these days he had raped.
Now don't tell spirituality and practically varies on situations and person to person. And don't create SpiritAtheism. As it is there are enough problems in the world.
The thing is get the point. Ignore the characters, stories, situations.
You take what you want.
I take what i want.
This one point.
But the main point is both of us should be ready to see each others view.
If not let us live and let live.
Now if the other person is going to argue with you - argue or ignore. (Believer)
Now if the other person is going to kill you - do what you can to not get killed. (Die hard Believer)
Now if the other person says you are also right - you can again agree or say don't lie. (Spiritual Person)
Or you can say i am not happy with the story. Whole thing is mindwash, smartass article. (Atheist, Practical Thinker)
I am saying, let it be. Be confident. Why you are getting insecure?
So if people like Sadhguru- good, you don't like, put your views.
If someone says you are wrong Sadhguru - you defend or ignore, but do with reasons. If not convinced ignore.
If Zakir Naik says - i will goto hell, i say okay great. Thank you Sir. Atleast i know where i am going. But i request you please not get angry that i am not following what God wants.
BTW my first God was Jesus. No comparison. I just said i know the truth, if Jesus is God. He will know what to do for me to be in Heaven.
My Atheist friend says its okay man. I wish you the best. Pray for me but i will choose something else. What can i Say? He beat us all. Look at his foolishness, yes it is foolishness alright but he is best foolish. He is best.
Like a Ant, Lion think they are best. Yes, try fighting even one to one with a big rat. Trust at least out of 100 man to 100 rat conflict, one human will be gone case.
Yes, story has loopholes, its not possible.
Not many will agree.
Point is not that let the story be full of loop holes.
What is the moral of the story apart from the wisecracks/trolls, critical analysis.
What is one of THE THINGS the story is about.
Very simple, when we are born only everyone has something.
You call it life.
I say spirit.
Some say Morality.
Some say Ethics.
Some are by mistake born as Pscyhos, Mentally insane, can't do much.
Some are mentally retarded.
Some just go by what they see and need proofs like Atheists/Scientists.
Yes, leave a person alone in jungle and that person might have completely something different, his own thing like say Animality instead of Spirituality, Being Practical or Say Atheist. He will be none of us.
Or imagine there is no one else on this earth right now. Right now.
Just one human. Not Even Eve. Just You & Planet. Get the point.
You don't know any language. Yes, i know God created Adam,Eve.
And so my logic is wrong. As i said, yes i am wrong.
Please still leave me. I beg of you. I respect you. I will come pray wherever, whenever you want. But let me choose my freewill without conditions apply.
Don't you get it.
It's not about God.
Nobody needs to forced/mindwashed/read/follow/practice/worship/think to what needs to be done.
Whom you have to follow.
You can think and do.
You can worship God and do.
You can worship idols and do.
But do something that is like Live & Let Live.
So don't look at the loopholes/weakness/facts or inaccuracies in the book, person, rituals, God, idols, methods, yoga, temples, church, mosques.
Yes, now you got the concept right. No God. Then Good Atheist Be happy.
I say apple is sweet. Let me Believe in God.
Someone else Believe God is Allah.
Don't look at who is correct or superior. Atleast Don't fight unless the person forces his will on you. Yes, then do what you need to defend yourself and save yourself.
So He says apple is juicy.
Someone says apple was tasteless. Gave my dog an apple, he puked disgustingly..
No one of our fingerprints in a human match. Not even Siamese twins.
What does it show, you can follow your own, follow someone else or don't follow.
So if you feel, some shit guru is shit, Please have the capacity to prove him wrong.
If you hate him, but have the commonsense to be calm and prove someone he is wrong. But also the humility to accept if some wisecrack proves you wrong.
So as i said, remember the apple...all are humans, but apple was different for all. Yes, i know wisecracks, die hard believes and practical holmes are saying i am &*(^^***. Gone crazy.
Exactly, i respect your views, you guys feel my opinions are wrong.
I am saying. Learn to Co-exist, say thank you or even if i don't agree with you. This is the point. If i aruge, abuse you, fight with you, then you do what is right. But just coz i have different opinion, belief..Please..
Okay imagine i am the world's best musician after AR Rahman.
But i am a psycho thief. So yes, punish put me to jail.
But don't say my music is demonic.
If it is demonic, okay let it be for you, but not everyone and don't say mindwash.
What about people who like the music, what about the people whom i inspire to become good musicians.
So point is ignore the person, his voice, his tone, his past life, current life, future life. Get to the matter of the story. Is it Good for you. Good Else, be smart Ignore, why argue or hate?
If you are Atheist, so go tell Michael Schumacher see i told you there is No God.(With all due to respect for the Racer).
If you are one of those who are ready for the Judgement Day is coming and booking tickets to heavens, for the near ones, dear ones and mindwashed ones. I say what about someone who is born
deaf,dumb, blind, no hands & legs, So No Calligraphy. We are all born in Sin right, Now What?
Okay, since Jesus already died for sins, the baby that is born like that has not committed any sins, so no hell for that baby. But it has to suffer lifelong. Vow God. Great. A ticket to heaven but
life like hell on earth especially what about the parents, relatives of that kid. Now don't say God tests on earth and anyway heaven is permanent.
Okay, anyway body is mud, why worry, spirit is permanent right. Ok.
Vow and if fail i will goto hell? just coz he wanted me to write a exam called life, i have to pass and look at the stakes - it is hell for eternity..My God, that's scary..Yes, i got my chances but i say i don't want exam..So my spirit also has chances of going to suffer.
My spirit, i choose my subject and God is the best teacher. Debate end.
Trust me Good teacher will always find a way.
If student doesn't like a subject, he knows how to make the student good at something else.
After all isn't a true teacher supposed to guide the student.
Being educated, exam I can sit at home and do correspondence also.
It's like If I read the holybooks Bible/Quran, then will goto heaven just by sitting at home till death.
Imagine, I am tenth standard kid, till date i just did nothing and read the holy words, Vow is that all. In that case i already got my ticket to heaven right.
Yes, i also know that not all believers goto to heaven. So point is you are saying i will goto heaven only if i do something. See again, but that is not what i want to do.
I hate exams, assignments.
Man this is life, why isn't it a white paper and no results. Just writing.
So what if i fail in life, so what if i later someone mindwashed me to be Atheist but till tenth standard I was a hardcore holy believer. Only one God.
Point is I don't want to pass or fail. Or once i pass, i don't want to keep on feeling insecure that i will fail. I pass I am fully responsible. I fail I am fully responsible.
I damn care if i pass or fail also. This is what i want. I don't want to be worried. It's so silly.
See its not about ticket to heaven...Yes, your point is right. I agree Jesus, came to the earth, Yes there is no proof denying that.
The Bible is true. I agree, say there is no mistakes also i agree. But all i am telling is let it be.
Anyway no one can be without committing sins on the earth. I see a murder, i am coward. But that's okay God forgives my sin because Jesus already died for sins.
As i said and I admit Yes, Jesus is God. He is the saviour. All i am saying is can i have the freewill with *No CONDITIONS APPLY.
I have admitted yes, Jesus is God. But do i have the freewill *NO CONDITIONS APPLY.
So Now can i say something. Can you let me live. I will not bother you. I will come if you want me to worship, shout out to the whole world. Yes i know Jesus, I love God.
But all i am asking is Please let me live and don't say others are wrong.
Thank You.
As for other God/Allah, Almighty or Atheists.
Point is not about God.
I am saying i want to be a writer. You say writers are crap.
You say its science which runs the world.
All i am saying is please if you know the truth, you think you are superior species, have better lifestyle to me, thoughts than me.
I request just one thing.
It's as i said i am not right, but since you are superior species, have proven scientific thoughts or pragmatic thoughts.
I just request one thing...Please love me for who i am, even if i stab you in the back tomorrow, please since you are superior, instead say hey you needed anything else.
I am not saying show your cheeks. See the situation, person and the point he has.
See if someone is raping someone, if you have no other options, do whatever is required to stop that injustice, if you can.
But let's not say he shouldn't have killed(Die hard Believers), he shouldn't have just watched(Practical thinkers), he should have saved her(Spiritually Enlightened) or say the victim was wearing wrong clothes(God fearing Believers).
See let God do his job. You do your best,talk,share,defend,stand by what you can do. But after a point don't do anything out of frustration.
Do what is the most right thing if you felt. But don't say other person deserved it. Let's stop it at that.. You did, said what is required but don't feel pity that person is wrong also.
EXPRESS YOUR TRUE OPINIONS, FACTS, TRUTH, BELIEFS, SAY other person is wrong but if he is not agreeing based on the situation either prove him wrong, make him lose, punish him but do what is the best and not what you feel is right.
It's like this imagine all lions are just the size of a small new born chick. Will we be afraid of the tigers, lions, if they attack us, if they were tiny creatures..yes may be but after of death..
Same thing be afraid of God if you want and follow but don't become angry, judge others, feel sympathy, or love others for God, leave others for God. Then what is the point. God din't leave you for all the shit but left them is it.
So we are all looking in different views, there is no right or wrong views.
It's like this you say rape is wrong.
I say yes, rape is wrong, will i keep watching if someone is raping. No, i will do whatever to stop that, if i can.
But the problem is imagine if every man knows he will get aids if they rape a girl. What if nature had made women in such a way that without a women's consent if someone raped her, the person would
be infected with HIV/AIDS. Even if they wore condoms, even if they touched a women, if nature had given a women power like that.
Or like snake, any women if she is physically handled without her consent, if nature had created a snake/cyanide like venom which if enters through inhale, touch. Yes, I know humans are pervert, they
would wear suits an all to prevent HIV/AIDS and still risk raping a women. So the imagination.
So i am saying what if cyanide like poison came out from every women who was touched without her consent and they would inhale and die it. Now what if the stupid man found gas masks or vaccination for cyanide.
Or best if any man ejaculated without a women's consent insider her or outside her would die or anywhere else would die.
But again loophole what about retrograde ejaculation.
So the point is not rules, the point is freedom to follow what they want without disturbing others.
So you see this will go one, nothing is foolproof..
So get the point.
You are saying is rape is bad.
I am saying yes rape is bad but every male has to be taught to respect females from the start at home.
Rapes will still happen but there will be huge change in society.
So yes punish rapes strictly but long terms find solution soon.
Same, its not about God, Spirituality, Being Atheist, High Fi Practical Thinker.
It is everyone's choice, give the choice and freedom to the person.
You know you have met the true God. Please share it to the person.
But don't worry, you have done your bit.
Keep faith in God knowing that you did your best even if the other person is about to hurt you for telling about God.
Trust me God will do the needful..now this is my thought ha....chuckles..
I Say Yes, Allah is God. Prophet Mohammed(PeaceBeUponHim). I know how all the previous messengers were sent, and final is Quran and Prophet Mohammed(PUBH) is final messenger and on the judgement day what will happen. Yes, Allah is my God. You have a problem.
Jesus is the only Way. He is my first God. I only have Bible at my home.
I believe in Shiva, Ganesha and Mariamman but I hate superstitious beliefs.
I also respect who says no God, I love the logic of Thinkers. BTW i was hardcore NO God Guy till i met Jesus.
But i get the point. 2+2+4,
3+1=4,
1+1+1+1+4.
1+3+4.
0+4=4 (If that's what Scientist/Atheist/Humanity Thinks)
All of us right. It is wrong only when we want to Live & Don't Allow others to Live.
Let us be beyond everything.
Just You & God.
But free to what follow you want and allow others to be free, to follow what they want.
See any person can be put in coma today with medical science.
So if all the people world are put in Coma. What is God, heaven, hell or what will a Atheist in coma do..
Live and Let Live.
I am Hindu but i want to follow God my way and let you follow how you want but not force, feel pity or attack me for following what i want.
Let us be in Coma with God. You be in your coma with God.
Let me be in Coma with God.
If i disturb your coma with God, do what you want but don't say i am in coma, dilemma, born in sin, following wrong things.
As i said, if you are in coma, you are only gone case...So..Live & Let live. Get the point, let me get my point. And its okay if the others don't get the point.
Sunday 21 October 2018
God???
I am wrong is it?
Ok.
Please let me know the truth.
You did your best, but please give me my space or excercise my free will.
Who am I?
A Hindu.
Hinduism=You Believe the truth, God. Ok. You Dont Believe God. OK. Live & Let Live.
Think. See the outcome.
Hi Bro, i was born in Hindu family. But believed God is beyond just what is said in Hindus or what my parents said i thought.
Started seeking.
I realized God first time through Jesus.
I experienced God through Jesus.
I was a Believer and still a Believer.
But one thing my Spirit or something in me was never satisfied.
Point is yes you are right, Jesus is God. You know he's the truth and what an all happened, why he died and why he is the Only way.
Yes you are right.
Okay Bro, please pray and anyway i said Jesus is God. Live & Let Live. Peace. Bro.
Again search starts, see meanwhile i was always in touch with my pastors, believer friends. Asking questions, i still talk discuss them.
They say i am wrong. Sooner or later again i will return like Prodigal Son.
I said them yes if Jesus is only way, let him take me. I accept him as my Saviour.
But then my spirit looked forward.
Now i realise that it doesnt matter.
Bro you Say Jesus is God.
Yes you are right.
I say God is Shiva, Ganesha.
Someone says God is Allah.
Someone says No God..yes he doesnt like music..may be.he's deaf...he likes cooking...get it..
Bro, its like this we all listen to music.
Can i say Classic music is the only music.
Can you say western music is the best music.
Can someon else say Arabic music is only music.
Bro point is not which music.
Point is do we all get the experience when we listen to music.
But what about deaf people, blind people.
There are those who are born, deaf, dumb, blind & has no hands and legs.
But his brain exists...you feed him that person grows everyday.
How will you explain we are born in Sin, accept Jesus for salvation...
How he'll know jesus, Allah to accept salvation...
Point is God exists or No, doesnt matter, but dont say other people are wrong.
Live & let live..
Yes, right.
So there is no right God or Wrong God or only God.
We all are seeking or want to experience God.
But once we experience we say my God is ultimate.
This is where problem comes.
If Jesus is God, sincerely pray for us Bro. Dont say we are wrong.
Trust me, whoever truly seeks, God will not forsake right.
Please dont consider this as a wise satan replying, especially with music example.
I know Lucifer was a arch angel and good musician.
I am true to experiencing God.
Just be true and humble in seeking.
Bro point is, is Jesus in God full form. Yes he is Jesus for our human brain to get a meaning but we also know we can never know God fully, simply because humans always a limitations.
Bro God is beyond human. Right.
Exactly Bro all of us are seeing the different/other sides of God.
You are seeing one side of God.
Both of us mean the same Coin but two different sides.
On a forum like this lot of questions will still remain.
All i want to say is Bro, see nothing against Jesus or Bible.
Just see how big was Noah's ark. Dimensions are given as 300 cubits in length, 50 cubits in width and 30 cubits in height (450 × 75 × 45 ft or 137 × 22.9 × 13.7 m).
The Ark would be 450 feet long, 75 feet wide and 45 feet high.
So dont tell all species on the earth filled in this one ship.
Its impossible.
Same with Quran or any other religions.
So dont look at loopholes.
Get the point, have you experienced God.
Please seek truly, be humble, dont be insecure or feel sad that many people are still not aware of Jesus and they will burn in hell on judgement day.
Don't worry bro, God need not feel insecure through you.
Who says you have to be fit by going to Gym only.
I can do yoga.
Can do pilates.
Someone can just eat and just be absolutely happy to be healthy.
Someone just follows acgood diet.
Someone follows a bit of all of these.
There are just many ways.
Okay even more simple.
I came out to explore if there other ways to God having the confidence in Jesus.
This is what God should do Liberate.
This is what God is.
There is nothing after or before God.
If you are one with God, nothing matters.
It is an experience.
Truth will set you free...
You will have full clarity...
Its simple Bro, now that we know Jesus is God, i suggest you find the truth in other methods.
Just really seek.
Find the truth.
Dont assume.
Anyways if you know all other methods are false you need not worry, as we know Jesus already our Saviour.
I dont mind struggling to find if there are other methods to God.
I will not be insecure about losing heaven.
Never Bro, God is not one who will indirectly blackmail me.
He is in full control, God need not have Heaven or Hell.
Forsomeone as ultimate as God it simply doesnt make sense for him to give only one way.
Trust me, its not just about having a ticket to heaven.
There is a lot more to God which we can never understand fully.
So lets not say i am wrong or you are right.
Have you experienced God share it.
I will share mine.
Let others experience what they want.
Point is to be a true seeker...and i mean really seek to the core.
Dont give up. God will happen.
God is God.
BTW Hinduism is not a religion.
Hindu can believe in any God-Shiva, Ganesha etc., the God, or No God. Point is I dont say you are wrong.
Get it. Now dont say Hindu Gods exists, so you cant have two fathers, you know what they call you. As i said i already know Jesus is God, Allah is God.
Live & Let Live.
Ok.
Please let me know the truth.
You did your best, but please give me my space or excercise my free will.
Who am I?
A Hindu.
Hinduism=You Believe the truth, God. Ok. You Dont Believe God. OK. Live & Let Live.
Think. See the outcome.
Hi Bro, i was born in Hindu family. But believed God is beyond just what is said in Hindus or what my parents said i thought.
Started seeking.
I realized God first time through Jesus.
I experienced God through Jesus.
I was a Believer and still a Believer.
But one thing my Spirit or something in me was never satisfied.
Point is yes you are right, Jesus is God. You know he's the truth and what an all happened, why he died and why he is the Only way.
Yes you are right.
Okay Bro, please pray and anyway i said Jesus is God. Live & Let Live. Peace. Bro.
Again search starts, see meanwhile i was always in touch with my pastors, believer friends. Asking questions, i still talk discuss them.
They say i am wrong. Sooner or later again i will return like Prodigal Son.
I said them yes if Jesus is only way, let him take me. I accept him as my Saviour.
But then my spirit looked forward.
Now i realise that it doesnt matter.
Bro you Say Jesus is God.
Yes you are right.
I say God is Shiva, Ganesha.
Someone says God is Allah.
Someone says No God..yes he doesnt like music..may be.he's deaf...he likes cooking...get it..
Bro, its like this we all listen to music.
Can i say Classic music is the only music.
Can you say western music is the best music.
Can someon else say Arabic music is only music.
Bro point is not which music.
Point is do we all get the experience when we listen to music.
But what about deaf people, blind people.
There are those who are born, deaf, dumb, blind & has no hands and legs.
But his brain exists...you feed him that person grows everyday.
How will you explain we are born in Sin, accept Jesus for salvation...
How he'll know jesus, Allah to accept salvation...
Point is God exists or No, doesnt matter, but dont say other people are wrong.
Live & let live..
Yes, right.
So there is no right God or Wrong God or only God.
We all are seeking or want to experience God.
But once we experience we say my God is ultimate.
This is where problem comes.
If Jesus is God, sincerely pray for us Bro. Dont say we are wrong.
Trust me, whoever truly seeks, God will not forsake right.
Please dont consider this as a wise satan replying, especially with music example.
I know Lucifer was a arch angel and good musician.
I am true to experiencing God.
Just be true and humble in seeking.
Bro point is, is Jesus in God full form. Yes he is Jesus for our human brain to get a meaning but we also know we can never know God fully, simply because humans always a limitations.
Bro God is beyond human. Right.
Exactly Bro all of us are seeing the different/other sides of God.
You are seeing one side of God.
Both of us mean the same Coin but two different sides.
On a forum like this lot of questions will still remain.
All i want to say is Bro, see nothing against Jesus or Bible.
Just see how big was Noah's ark. Dimensions are given as 300 cubits in length, 50 cubits in width and 30 cubits in height (450 × 75 × 45 ft or 137 × 22.9 × 13.7 m).
The Ark would be 450 feet long, 75 feet wide and 45 feet high.
So dont tell all species on the earth filled in this one ship.
Its impossible.
Same with Quran or any other religions.
So dont look at loopholes.
Get the point, have you experienced God.
Please seek truly, be humble, dont be insecure or feel sad that many people are still not aware of Jesus and they will burn in hell on judgement day.
Don't worry bro, God need not feel insecure through you.
Who says you have to be fit by going to Gym only.
I can do yoga.
Can do pilates.
Someone can just eat and just be absolutely happy to be healthy.
Someone just follows acgood diet.
Someone follows a bit of all of these.
There are just many ways.
Okay even more simple.
I came out to explore if there other ways to God having the confidence in Jesus.
This is what God should do Liberate.
This is what God is.
There is nothing after or before God.
If you are one with God, nothing matters.
It is an experience.
Truth will set you free...
You will have full clarity...
Its simple Bro, now that we know Jesus is God, i suggest you find the truth in other methods.
Just really seek.
Find the truth.
Dont assume.
Anyways if you know all other methods are false you need not worry, as we know Jesus already our Saviour.
I dont mind struggling to find if there are other methods to God.
I will not be insecure about losing heaven.
Never Bro, God is not one who will indirectly blackmail me.
He is in full control, God need not have Heaven or Hell.
Forsomeone as ultimate as God it simply doesnt make sense for him to give only one way.
Trust me, its not just about having a ticket to heaven.
There is a lot more to God which we can never understand fully.
So lets not say i am wrong or you are right.
Have you experienced God share it.
I will share mine.
Let others experience what they want.
Point is to be a true seeker...and i mean really seek to the core.
Dont give up. God will happen.
God is God.
BTW Hinduism is not a religion.
Hindu can believe in any God-Shiva, Ganesha etc., the God, or No God. Point is I dont say you are wrong.
Get it. Now dont say Hindu Gods exists, so you cant have two fathers, you know what they call you. As i said i already know Jesus is God, Allah is God.
Live & Let Live.
Saturday 20 October 2018
Truth on Sadhguru into Trance state Bhava Samadhi when Chanting Shiva Mantra in Shivaratri 2018
Hi this video has not been uploaded by the Isha or Sadhguru official channel.
https://youtu.be/SFqMVljpJBE
So Isha or Sadhguru isnt promoting this.
Now he did it in public and you feel he's acting.
See, read about Mahasamadhi.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mahasamādhi.
Dig deep if a person can leave his body. Yes its possible.
Sadhguru can do it as well.
Now one of the cases when a person leaves his body is when he reaches a highly meditative stage.
Yes you will be able go beyond your physical existence.
It happened to him during the event.
Sadhguru is no God. If he knew this would happen to him, he would have tried to avoid these things.
Shivaratri is a highly powerful day for spiritual people.
Google about it. Speciality of Shivaratri. Auspiciousness of Shivatratri.
It just happened that he might have reached his highest/ trance state.
Still dint get, you have never done drugs right. Read...upon what happens when you take drugs say like cocaine or heroine.
Initially you will feel ecstatic, but if same drug is take beyond a point...you will die. Right...
I am not linking meditation to drugs.
But what is reason or effects of meditation. To make you feel happy but without drugs.
But after a point, like they say too much of anything is bad and we know the limits of human physical body, a person will feel so ecstatic during meditation that he can leave his body when wants.
Again Google on this like say - Meditation and leaving your body or something similar. Find if its true..
It is not a act or miracle or gimmick Sadhguru did.
It just happened, to him in public for first time.
And since we are seeing first time these things in public we feel its acting.
What i suggest is dig deep. See if these things are possible.
Truly find out, that is what i did. I came know what exactly happened.
https://youtu.be/SFqMVljpJBE
So Isha or Sadhguru isnt promoting this.
Now he did it in public and you feel he's acting.
See, read about Mahasamadhi.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mahasamādhi.
Dig deep if a person can leave his body. Yes its possible.
Sadhguru can do it as well.
Now one of the cases when a person leaves his body is when he reaches a highly meditative stage.
Yes you will be able go beyond your physical existence.
It happened to him during the event.
Sadhguru is no God. If he knew this would happen to him, he would have tried to avoid these things.
Shivaratri is a highly powerful day for spiritual people.
Google about it. Speciality of Shivaratri. Auspiciousness of Shivatratri.
It just happened that he might have reached his highest/ trance state.
Still dint get, you have never done drugs right. Read...upon what happens when you take drugs say like cocaine or heroine.
Initially you will feel ecstatic, but if same drug is take beyond a point...you will die. Right...
I am not linking meditation to drugs.
But what is reason or effects of meditation. To make you feel happy but without drugs.
But after a point, like they say too much of anything is bad and we know the limits of human physical body, a person will feel so ecstatic during meditation that he can leave his body when wants.
Again Google on this like say - Meditation and leaving your body or something similar. Find if its true..
It is not a act or miracle or gimmick Sadhguru did.
It just happened, to him in public for first time.
And since we are seeing first time these things in public we feel its acting.
What i suggest is dig deep. See if these things are possible.
Truly find out, that is what i did. I came know what exactly happened.
Truth on Lynching In India - Headed Debate Sadhguru at IIM
I m really happy we are discussing this without emotions.
A large crime is going on, Get the big picture.
4 million cattles, cows don't fly, they have to be walked or transported.
Only small are transported, across country such a large crime is happening, there will be reaction. It is only reported now, but it is always happening.
Cattle lynch is just one part of bigger problem.
Unfortunately this is how things are sorted in our country.
But in US police arrives in 3-4 minutes, fully armed.
Here one lathi ridden police on cycle comes, imagine should we go on accusing i did it, you did it or find the solution..
As i said you are free to disagree the proofs.
So are you saying only 42 lynching happened.
All of them are coz of cow.
Anyway if it is so, he says if police reach anywhere in India in 3-4, lynching can hugely be eradicated in India.
He's telling lynching for cow is just one reason. He just explained why people lynch for cow smuggling.
He's a human, if you feel his solution is not upto mark, ignore him.
Bro, first we need to prove if all lynching in india is becoz of cow in India.
Lynching in India, (60 percent in India is village, try calling a cop in a village, see how fast they come) is law and order issue.
Lynching always existed.
Sooner or later it had to come to our notice. That's all.
Lets say as i said i agree to your points for a moment.
Please show all lynching in India is only coz of cow.
I will agree with you...first prove lynching is purely because of people carrying beef.
Please let us not make this a communal issue.
Just give numbers/percentage, proof saying lynching is coz of cow only...
Like these lynching for communal reasons, cow, mob justice-public rage, theft, love affairs/honour killing, witch hunting many reasons are there.
That is not the point. You are saying only two points and thinking lynching is because of religious motives.
Yes i see your point is that you are seeing a PATTERN/Trend that lynching is coz of cow, beef, communal hatred but how do you stop it. If police can reach anyplace in their jurisdiction within 3-4 min, then lynching can be eradicated...forget if its for cow, kidnapping or theft...
See the solution, anyone can offer. Sadhguru was asked, he gave a good solution...offcourse you can suggest a better solution as well.
But its unfortunate that a simple issue like how to control lynching we brought in cow, communal things, etc...
But glad you are sincere and genuinely asked questions.
See its like this if in India imagine if all become followers of Islam like Pakistan. Are you saying lynching will not happen.
It will not be cow or religion lynching but it will happen for some other issue based on the society.
So lynching will happen if no law and order is there. If police can reach anyplace in their jurisdiction within 3-4 min, then lynching can be eradicated...
But no matter what religion or culture the country has, can solution of the police reaching in 3-4 min be implemented...
Yes it can be...if all people file PIL, make agitation, its not a big deal.
If a pizza can be delivered in minutes, if we are serious we can ask for a law where cops should reach in 5 min from their jurisdiction.
Isnt it possible, think...
Imagine in India if people know cops will arrive in 3-4 min...then you see how lynching will come down just like that...
Btw..i dint want to do this.
Here are facts on cow smuggling:
As of October 2017.
5.32 lakh heads of cattle valued at about ₹350 crore have been seized since 2014.
Seized, meaning it is proven. Hope this proof you believe. Its shared in Hindu Newspaper.
File RTI, you will get information.
Look at guts, to smuggle cattle, they will kill soldiers, show how big/strong cattle smuggling is.
Two Border Security Force (BSF) personnel have been killed, allegedly by cattle smugglers along the India-Bangladesh border, over the past two months. Tushar Kanti Das died on September 14 at an outpost near Angrail in West Bengal’s North 24 Parganas district, while Dipak Modal from the Tripura Frontier BSF succumbed to injuries he sustained in an attack on October 16.
So now even defence people are lying...
Answers tabled by the Home Ministry on March 28, 2017, in response to questions raised by Members of Parliament in the Lok Sabha, revealed that 1,09,999 heads of cattle were seized in 2014, 1,53,602in 2015 and 1,68,801 in 2016.
For the first nine months of 2017, till September 30, 99,744 heads of cattle were seized along this border. Senior officials of the BSF said that the numbers for all of 2017 may be somewhere between 1.3 lakh to 1.4 lakh heads of cattle seized.
Along the SBF- South Bengal Frontier alone, over 3.25 lakh units of cattle valued at ₹200 crore have been seized since 2014.
Of the 1,09,999 heads of cattle seized in 2014, 1,01,751 (about 92%) were from the BSF’s South Bengal Frontier (SBF).
https://www.thehindu.com/news/national/other-states/cattle-smuggling-goes-on-along-indo-bangla-border/article19901729.ece
As of Article on Dec 2017,
If i share Human Trafficking numbers as per the National Crime Records Bureau (NCRB), the ministry of home affairs wing that collates annual data on crime in the country.
As many as 8,132 cases of human trafficking were reported across India.
Crime against children
Crimes against children have gone up by a whopping 13 per cent, from 94,172 in 2015 to 1,06,958 in 2016. While kidnapping and abduction accounted for 52.3 per cent of the cases, cases under Protection of Children from Sexual Offences Act, 2012 (POCSO) were at a worrying 34.4 per cent.
Atrocities/crime against SCs went up by 5.5 per cent in 2016 (40,801) over 2015 (38,670).
Rape cases have reported an increase of 12.4 per cent from 34,651 cases in 2015 to 38,947 in 2016.
Crime against women
Cases under "crime against women" category reported an increase of 2.9 per cent in 2016 over 2015. Majority of these cases “cruelty by husband or his relatives” (32.6 per cent) followed by “assault on women with intent to outrage her modesty" (25.0 per cent), “kidnaping and abduction of women” (19.0 per cent) whic includes “rape” mentioned above (11.5 per cent).
JUVENILE CRIMES
Cases of juveniles in conflict with the law have gone up again after a dip of 13.1 per cent was registered in 2015 over 2014. In 2016, 35,849 such cases were registered, an increase of 7.2 per cent over the 33,433 cases of 2015.
https://www.dailyo.in/variety/ncrb-data-2016-crimes-against-women-human-trafficking-cyber-crime/story/1/20867.html
What about those crimes list i have not reported. Plus i have shared only few law and order issues.
What is the pattern you see.
India has always had a law and order issue.
Its not only cow or only communal hatred.
So now are you saying cow smuggling and communal hatred is only lynching happening in India and BJP is behind this.
What about all other crimes as well.
BJP is encouraging Crime also, lynching also and Sadhguru is part of this.
Please provide better reasons.
Dont blame any political party firstly for people who committ crimes and second again people doing lynching.
What has BJP, Congress got to do with this. May be one or two places it happens because of caste domination in that area.
But understand the issue. Iam a Hindu, If i shout in a muslim area, that a muslim shopkeeper person cheated me will all muslims attack me.
Similarly, if you goto a hindu market, a hindu shop keeper cheated you, you shout. Will all hit you...just like that.
Trust me if today people kill each other also, people wont bother. Because its personal issue.
Good/Bad people only get together if there is a common problem, obstacle.
Most of us dont know who lives in our streets only. Be it village or city.
Lynching cannot be made to happen. People are not fools to get into legal issue KNOWINGLY.
Lynching just happens on the SPUR OF MOMENT.
People are also not fools to simply attack, especially another religion person. They know where the problem can end up.Yes mistakes happen sometimes.
But tell me how often you fought with a hindu compared to a Muslim.
See lynching is a frustration because of law and order and rumours, tension.
Don't connect only two causes.
Dont believe Media.
Dont believe anyone, not even ME.
DIG DEEP, FIND THE TRUTH.
A large crime is going on, Get the big picture.
4 million cattles, cows don't fly, they have to be walked or transported.
Only small are transported, across country such a large crime is happening, there will be reaction. It is only reported now, but it is always happening.
Cattle lynch is just one part of bigger problem.
Unfortunately this is how things are sorted in our country.
But in US police arrives in 3-4 minutes, fully armed.
Here one lathi ridden police on cycle comes, imagine should we go on accusing i did it, you did it or find the solution..
As i said you are free to disagree the proofs.
So are you saying only 42 lynching happened.
All of them are coz of cow.
Anyway if it is so, he says if police reach anywhere in India in 3-4, lynching can hugely be eradicated in India.
He's telling lynching for cow is just one reason. He just explained why people lynch for cow smuggling.
He's a human, if you feel his solution is not upto mark, ignore him.
Bro, first we need to prove if all lynching in india is becoz of cow in India.
Lynching in India, (60 percent in India is village, try calling a cop in a village, see how fast they come) is law and order issue.
Lynching always existed.
Sooner or later it had to come to our notice. That's all.
Lets say as i said i agree to your points for a moment.
Please show all lynching in India is only coz of cow.
I will agree with you...first prove lynching is purely because of people carrying beef.
Please let us not make this a communal issue.
Just give numbers/percentage, proof saying lynching is coz of cow only...
Like these lynching for communal reasons, cow, mob justice-public rage, theft, love affairs/honour killing, witch hunting many reasons are there.
That is not the point. You are saying only two points and thinking lynching is because of religious motives.
Yes i see your point is that you are seeing a PATTERN/Trend that lynching is coz of cow, beef, communal hatred but how do you stop it. If police can reach anyplace in their jurisdiction within 3-4 min, then lynching can be eradicated...forget if its for cow, kidnapping or theft...
See the solution, anyone can offer. Sadhguru was asked, he gave a good solution...offcourse you can suggest a better solution as well.
But its unfortunate that a simple issue like how to control lynching we brought in cow, communal things, etc...
But glad you are sincere and genuinely asked questions.
See its like this if in India imagine if all become followers of Islam like Pakistan. Are you saying lynching will not happen.
It will not be cow or religion lynching but it will happen for some other issue based on the society.
So lynching will happen if no law and order is there. If police can reach anyplace in their jurisdiction within 3-4 min, then lynching can be eradicated...
But no matter what religion or culture the country has, can solution of the police reaching in 3-4 min be implemented...
Yes it can be...if all people file PIL, make agitation, its not a big deal.
If a pizza can be delivered in minutes, if we are serious we can ask for a law where cops should reach in 5 min from their jurisdiction.
Isnt it possible, think...
Imagine in India if people know cops will arrive in 3-4 min...then you see how lynching will come down just like that...
Btw..i dint want to do this.
Here are facts on cow smuggling:
As of October 2017.
5.32 lakh heads of cattle valued at about ₹350 crore have been seized since 2014.
Seized, meaning it is proven. Hope this proof you believe. Its shared in Hindu Newspaper.
File RTI, you will get information.
Look at guts, to smuggle cattle, they will kill soldiers, show how big/strong cattle smuggling is.
Two Border Security Force (BSF) personnel have been killed, allegedly by cattle smugglers along the India-Bangladesh border, over the past two months. Tushar Kanti Das died on September 14 at an outpost near Angrail in West Bengal’s North 24 Parganas district, while Dipak Modal from the Tripura Frontier BSF succumbed to injuries he sustained in an attack on October 16.
So now even defence people are lying...
Answers tabled by the Home Ministry on March 28, 2017, in response to questions raised by Members of Parliament in the Lok Sabha, revealed that 1,09,999 heads of cattle were seized in 2014, 1,53,602in 2015 and 1,68,801 in 2016.
For the first nine months of 2017, till September 30, 99,744 heads of cattle were seized along this border. Senior officials of the BSF said that the numbers for all of 2017 may be somewhere between 1.3 lakh to 1.4 lakh heads of cattle seized.
Along the SBF- South Bengal Frontier alone, over 3.25 lakh units of cattle valued at ₹200 crore have been seized since 2014.
Of the 1,09,999 heads of cattle seized in 2014, 1,01,751 (about 92%) were from the BSF’s South Bengal Frontier (SBF).
https://www.thehindu.com/news/national/other-states/cattle-smuggling-goes-on-along-indo-bangla-border/article19901729.ece
As of Article on Dec 2017,
If i share Human Trafficking numbers as per the National Crime Records Bureau (NCRB), the ministry of home affairs wing that collates annual data on crime in the country.
As many as 8,132 cases of human trafficking were reported across India.
Crime against children
Crimes against children have gone up by a whopping 13 per cent, from 94,172 in 2015 to 1,06,958 in 2016. While kidnapping and abduction accounted for 52.3 per cent of the cases, cases under Protection of Children from Sexual Offences Act, 2012 (POCSO) were at a worrying 34.4 per cent.
Atrocities/crime against SCs went up by 5.5 per cent in 2016 (40,801) over 2015 (38,670).
Rape cases have reported an increase of 12.4 per cent from 34,651 cases in 2015 to 38,947 in 2016.
Crime against women
Cases under "crime against women" category reported an increase of 2.9 per cent in 2016 over 2015. Majority of these cases “cruelty by husband or his relatives” (32.6 per cent) followed by “assault on women with intent to outrage her modesty" (25.0 per cent), “kidnaping and abduction of women” (19.0 per cent) whic includes “rape” mentioned above (11.5 per cent).
JUVENILE CRIMES
Cases of juveniles in conflict with the law have gone up again after a dip of 13.1 per cent was registered in 2015 over 2014. In 2016, 35,849 such cases were registered, an increase of 7.2 per cent over the 33,433 cases of 2015.
https://www.dailyo.in/variety/ncrb-data-2016-crimes-against-women-human-trafficking-cyber-crime/story/1/20867.html
What about those crimes list i have not reported. Plus i have shared only few law and order issues.
What is the pattern you see.
India has always had a law and order issue.
Its not only cow or only communal hatred.
So now are you saying cow smuggling and communal hatred is only lynching happening in India and BJP is behind this.
What about all other crimes as well.
BJP is encouraging Crime also, lynching also and Sadhguru is part of this.
Please provide better reasons.
Dont blame any political party firstly for people who committ crimes and second again people doing lynching.
What has BJP, Congress got to do with this. May be one or two places it happens because of caste domination in that area.
But understand the issue. Iam a Hindu, If i shout in a muslim area, that a muslim shopkeeper person cheated me will all muslims attack me.
Similarly, if you goto a hindu market, a hindu shop keeper cheated you, you shout. Will all hit you...just like that.
Trust me if today people kill each other also, people wont bother. Because its personal issue.
Good/Bad people only get together if there is a common problem, obstacle.
Most of us dont know who lives in our streets only. Be it village or city.
Lynching cannot be made to happen. People are not fools to get into legal issue KNOWINGLY.
Lynching just happens on the SPUR OF MOMENT.
People are also not fools to simply attack, especially another religion person. They know where the problem can end up.Yes mistakes happen sometimes.
But tell me how often you fought with a hindu compared to a Muslim.
See lynching is a frustration because of law and order and rumours, tension.
Don't connect only two causes.
Dont believe Media.
Dont believe anyone, not even ME.
DIG DEEP, FIND THE TRUTH.
Review on Isha Foundation Sadhguru Jaggi Vasudev cattles smuggled border security forces being lynched
Hi Bhai, good we are debating instead of giving wisecracks/trolls. In a discussion he dint feel he should quote the source for all the facts he speaks.
It was like asking are all questions truly genuine or just to mock Sadhguru..
Btw here's the fact:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cattle_theft_in_India
You are still free to believe but the problem exists and the numbers well, common sense will tell..its big...it doesnt matter whether exactly it matches.the figures..but cattle smuggling is big.
Just that we would not hear usually. Everyday earth quakes happen in the world. We hear because...media reports...only few or big ones..
Did you know the biggest crime in world is not murder, theft, cheating. It is Human Trafficking.
Google it Bro.
If humans (girls mostly)are only smuggled what chance does cow stand...
Dont you get it, most people want porn.
DEMAND.
So internet is mostly porn. Its a fact.
So where you get new porn everyday.
SUPPLY - dont say porn stars. 90 percent of girls, just ask. You will know how they ended up in brothels, porn etc.
Till date i am yet to meet someone who wanted to be a porn star and earn money.
Like that,
There is Demand for Beef, but supply. Get big picture. Find the truth. You will know.
Anyway hope you read the link on cattle smuggling...the numbers are way beyond what Sadhguru said...not even including unreported ones..i mean how many have the capability to report and manage to get a FIR for a cow theft....
It was like asking are all questions truly genuine or just to mock Sadhguru..
Btw here's the fact:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cattle_theft_in_India
You are still free to believe but the problem exists and the numbers well, common sense will tell..its big...it doesnt matter whether exactly it matches.the figures..but cattle smuggling is big.
Just that we would not hear usually. Everyday earth quakes happen in the world. We hear because...media reports...only few or big ones..
Did you know the biggest crime in world is not murder, theft, cheating. It is Human Trafficking.
Google it Bro.
If humans (girls mostly)are only smuggled what chance does cow stand...
Dont you get it, most people want porn.
DEMAND.
So internet is mostly porn. Its a fact.
So where you get new porn everyday.
SUPPLY - dont say porn stars. 90 percent of girls, just ask. You will know how they ended up in brothels, porn etc.
Till date i am yet to meet someone who wanted to be a porn star and earn money.
Like that,
There is Demand for Beef, but supply. Get big picture. Find the truth. You will know.
Anyway hope you read the link on cattle smuggling...the numbers are way beyond what Sadhguru said...not even including unreported ones..i mean how many have the capability to report and manage to get a FIR for a cow theft....
Truth on ISHA foundation Sadhguru Jaggi Vasudev Making Money
See let us remove this thought that Guru, yoga etc has to be free for all.
If you cant pay dont join.
By the way there are free programs done by Isha.
They need money to give salary to employees, they have to pay for water, food, electricity etc.They want to expand and share spiritual well being. Without money this is not possible. What is wrong if they want to expand spirituality.
If businessman want to expand if parents wants their kids to become great, if a person wants to become great, it is not wrong.
But spiritually if i want to expand it becomes wrong...
I and you have choice to give money or no. So dont give money.
So decide.
Now you say they are misusing money. Fine, share the proofs. Bring out their frauds.
I am a guru but does it mean my kid should also be a spiritual person.
It is kids choice. Sadhguru daughter choose her life.
If Sadhguru makes money what is the problem.
My money will goto my kids.
If sadhguru salary goes to his daughter what is wrong.
Why you expect Sadhguru give his full earnings to spirituality. It is his choice.
As i said no where it is written that spiritual person should not be materialistic.
Yes if you find Sadhguru indulging in wrong things please share it.
If he has car, bunglaw, there is nothing wrong in it.
If the money he got was by wrong doings, then again you can say he is wrong.
Sadhguru was a successful businessman before he became spiritual.
What would you say if he went back to his business and did both spirituality and business today.
He wants be spiritual and be materialistic successful because he feels that is the only way he can expand maximum spiritual.
Is it a sin, if Vivekananda wanted to open a business tomorrow.
Is it wrong if Sadhguru is well off and spiritual... Is it a sin
Yes please do one thing file a RTI or PIL.
Find Isha and Sadhguru source of income.
Get his IT returns.
Trust me if 100 people apply, you will get the details.
Nothing Isha or Sadhguru can hide.
If you get any false or fraud proof, file case.
I will support you.
Let us not assume things.
There are teachers who teach for free and good teachers who charge money.
There are doctors who give free treatment, there are excellent doctors who charge a bomb.
Sadhguru gives free programmes as well.
They charge more or accordingly for foreigners.
In Indian cities also price of his programs vary based on lot of things like expenses, infrastructure, food etc.
In fact if i start a spiritual organisation or ashram, i will first run a successful business. I will use that money in my spiritual organization.
Take that money and do spirituality. Is it wrong.
So will you blame me, i am doing wrong business and fooling people.
I should not do spirituality and business together is it. Who said this...
I can be wrong, Isha, Sadhguru will have drawbacks.
Share it, let them correct it.
Else law will punish them or sooner or later truth will prevail.
If you cant pay dont join.
By the way there are free programs done by Isha.
They need money to give salary to employees, they have to pay for water, food, electricity etc.They want to expand and share spiritual well being. Without money this is not possible. What is wrong if they want to expand spirituality.
If businessman want to expand if parents wants their kids to become great, if a person wants to become great, it is not wrong.
But spiritually if i want to expand it becomes wrong...
I and you have choice to give money or no. So dont give money.
So decide.
Now you say they are misusing money. Fine, share the proofs. Bring out their frauds.
I am a guru but does it mean my kid should also be a spiritual person.
It is kids choice. Sadhguru daughter choose her life.
If Sadhguru makes money what is the problem.
My money will goto my kids.
If sadhguru salary goes to his daughter what is wrong.
Why you expect Sadhguru give his full earnings to spirituality. It is his choice.
As i said no where it is written that spiritual person should not be materialistic.
Yes if you find Sadhguru indulging in wrong things please share it.
If he has car, bunglaw, there is nothing wrong in it.
If the money he got was by wrong doings, then again you can say he is wrong.
Sadhguru was a successful businessman before he became spiritual.
What would you say if he went back to his business and did both spirituality and business today.
He wants be spiritual and be materialistic successful because he feels that is the only way he can expand maximum spiritual.
Is it a sin, if Vivekananda wanted to open a business tomorrow.
Is it wrong if Sadhguru is well off and spiritual... Is it a sin
Yes please do one thing file a RTI or PIL.
Find Isha and Sadhguru source of income.
Get his IT returns.
Trust me if 100 people apply, you will get the details.
Nothing Isha or Sadhguru can hide.
If you get any false or fraud proof, file case.
I will support you.
Let us not assume things.
There are teachers who teach for free and good teachers who charge money.
There are doctors who give free treatment, there are excellent doctors who charge a bomb.
Sadhguru gives free programmes as well.
They charge more or accordingly for foreigners.
In Indian cities also price of his programs vary based on lot of things like expenses, infrastructure, food etc.
In fact if i start a spiritual organisation or ashram, i will first run a successful business. I will use that money in my spiritual organization.
Take that money and do spirituality. Is it wrong.
So will you blame me, i am doing wrong business and fooling people.
I should not do spirituality and business together is it. Who said this...
I can be wrong, Isha, Sadhguru will have drawbacks.
Share it, let them correct it.
Else law will punish them or sooner or later truth will prevail.
Truth on ISHA foundation Sadhguru Jaggi Vasudev Charge lakhs of rupees for Education Schooling
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7JjslRotqqg
Nobody is forcing anyone to pay lakhs of rupees. We are free to enroll them in the below schools also from Isha, which is free and completely sponsored by donations.
This is one of the reasons why they charge lakhs of rupees. Isha Vidhya setting up 206 schools designed specifically to create confident, English-speaking, computer literate children who are on par with students from India's best urban schools
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8fDGx-t5VBk
Nobody is forcing anyone to pay lakhs of rupees. We are free to enroll them in the below schools also from Isha, which is free and completely sponsored by donations.
This is one of the reasons why they charge lakhs of rupees. Isha Vidhya setting up 206 schools designed specifically to create confident, English-speaking, computer literate children who are on par with students from India's best urban schools
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8fDGx-t5VBk
Truth on Isha Foundation Mindwash Controversy Parent complaints against Sadhguru Jaggi Vasudev
Hope you know Tamil
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a1IiMoqxEvg
Yes you are right in one context but i just wanted to say this from a kids perspective.
Why parents look at kids as support. It is good as parents to expect, they have every right.
But if you say parents are God then what will God want for his children. If i truly love my child, what will i do. Think, i will never force my kid for my needs at any cost.
Bro only purpose of marriage and kids is to give a good next generation for society.
Look at animals, none of them expect their young ones to take care of them.
We have slightly deviated from true nature of marriage and reason for having kids.
So we are thinking its wrong if kids forsake their parents for spirituality or follow their dreams.
Yes, if parents are in need kid should help, no excuse for this.
But parents being God for kids should never expect anything from kids.
Then you see...these things will not happen.
Plus here is the latest update:
A person named Kamaraj had filed complaints against Isha that his two daughters were forced to become Sanyasi.
Later investigation was done and Kamaraj's both girls said they are sanyasi in Isha out of absolute free will.
This is the background.
The same person Kamaraj now has announced in Media that the lady in the video will become a Sanyasi on September 1.
So this lady has filed complaint against Kamaraj who is he to announce in media that what she will be become.
Kamaraj has allegedly taken the lady's old parents who are unwell. He made the lady's parent to tell in media that their daughter is mindwashed to become a Sanyasi.
Lady says there is art of living, and lot if other practices people do. Just because i do yoga in isha doesnt mean isha foundation is forcing me.
Kamaraj surely wants to spoil Isha foundation reputation.
Who is he to announce in media what i will do? He has even forced my mom and dad who are old, sick to tell against Isha foundation. My parents are old, and not mentally so strong, how can take my parents and do these things.
I have given police complaint for protection from Kamaraj and his men.
I am not able to goto office, he is spoiling my reputation. Why is a third person doing all this.
Offcourse you think any parent will feel bad if their kid doesnt do as they expect...this is what Aparana Sister parents did in media.
It happens with truth, its hard to believe...even my comments will sound i am an Isha agent.😁
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a1IiMoqxEvg
Yes you are right in one context but i just wanted to say this from a kids perspective.
Why parents look at kids as support. It is good as parents to expect, they have every right.
But if you say parents are God then what will God want for his children. If i truly love my child, what will i do. Think, i will never force my kid for my needs at any cost.
Bro only purpose of marriage and kids is to give a good next generation for society.
Look at animals, none of them expect their young ones to take care of them.
We have slightly deviated from true nature of marriage and reason for having kids.
So we are thinking its wrong if kids forsake their parents for spirituality or follow their dreams.
Yes, if parents are in need kid should help, no excuse for this.
But parents being God for kids should never expect anything from kids.
Then you see...these things will not happen.
Plus here is the latest update:
A person named Kamaraj had filed complaints against Isha that his two daughters were forced to become Sanyasi.
Later investigation was done and Kamaraj's both girls said they are sanyasi in Isha out of absolute free will.
This is the background.
The same person Kamaraj now has announced in Media that the lady in the video will become a Sanyasi on September 1.
So this lady has filed complaint against Kamaraj who is he to announce in media that what she will be become.
Kamaraj has allegedly taken the lady's old parents who are unwell. He made the lady's parent to tell in media that their daughter is mindwashed to become a Sanyasi.
Lady says there is art of living, and lot if other practices people do. Just because i do yoga in isha doesnt mean isha foundation is forcing me.
Kamaraj surely wants to spoil Isha foundation reputation.
Who is he to announce in media what i will do? He has even forced my mom and dad who are old, sick to tell against Isha foundation. My parents are old, and not mentally so strong, how can take my parents and do these things.
I have given police complaint for protection from Kamaraj and his men.
I am not able to goto office, he is spoiling my reputation. Why is a third person doing all this.
Offcourse you think any parent will feel bad if their kid doesnt do as they expect...this is what Aparana Sister parents did in media.
It happens with truth, its hard to believe...even my comments will sound i am an Isha agent.😁
Truth on Isha Foundation Sadhguru Jaggi Vasudev Youth Mindwash
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uXLNd3ne9wE
Hi Bro, this lady is actually supporting Isha...😉
A person named Kamaraj had filed complaints against Isha that his two daughters were forced to become Sanyasi.
Later investigation was done and Kamaraj's both girls said they are sanyasi in Isha out of absolute free will.
This is the background.
The same person Kamaraj now has announced in Media that the lady in the video will become a Sanyasi on September 1.
So this lady has filed complaint against Kamaraj who is he to announce in media that what she will be become.
Kamaraj has allegedly taken the lady's old parents who are unwell. He made the lady's parent to tell in media that their daughter is mindwashed to become a Sanyasi.
Lady says there is art of living, and lot if other practices people do. Just because i do yoga in isha doesnt mean isha foundation is forcing me.
Kamaraj surely wants to spoil Isha foundation reputation.
Who is he to announce in media what i will do? He has even forced my mom and dad who are old, sick to tell against Isha foundation. My parents are old, and not mentally so strong, how can take my parents and do these things.
I have given police complaint for protection from Kamaraj and his men.
I am not able to goto office, he is spoiling my reputation. Why is a third person doing all this.
Hi Bro, this lady is actually supporting Isha...😉
A person named Kamaraj had filed complaints against Isha that his two daughters were forced to become Sanyasi.
Later investigation was done and Kamaraj's both girls said they are sanyasi in Isha out of absolute free will.
This is the background.
The same person Kamaraj now has announced in Media that the lady in the video will become a Sanyasi on September 1.
So this lady has filed complaint against Kamaraj who is he to announce in media that what she will be become.
Kamaraj has allegedly taken the lady's old parents who are unwell. He made the lady's parent to tell in media that their daughter is mindwashed to become a Sanyasi.
Lady says there is art of living, and lot if other practices people do. Just because i do yoga in isha doesnt mean isha foundation is forcing me.
Kamaraj surely wants to spoil Isha foundation reputation.
Who is he to announce in media what i will do? He has even forced my mom and dad who are old, sick to tell against Isha foundation. My parents are old, and not mentally so strong, how can take my parents and do these things.
I have given police complaint for protection from Kamaraj and his men.
I am not able to goto office, he is spoiling my reputation. Why is a third person doing all this.
Is Sadhguru Jaggi Vasudev a con man because he leads Rich Lifestyle?
Yes you are right.
Because today times have changed.
No one listen to guru in langoti.
What is wrong if a spiritual leader is making money and well dressed to teach good things.
Why we fix that all guru should be simple.
Yes you may be right Isha has certain wrongs.
Please prove it.
Put in youtube.
Share the proofs.
Even doctors, hospitals, businessman, in fact everything, everyone have their negatives.
You choose good things from Isha. See if good outweighs the bad.
Strongly object the negatives, share them to everyone.
If you dont like Isha, be reasonable, share the proof, let people know Bad things in Isha.
If Isha improves good for them.
Isha or Sadhguru is also from this earth only and he is human. Now you are telling all spiritual person or a place should be perfect.
No, people hate Vivekananda, Gandhi, even Mother Teresa. Buddha was hated by his wife for leaving his throne, her and becoming Ascetic.
Never be judgemental. There are always many sides to a story. See the truth, share it. Be calm , be cool.
Eventually truth will prevail, might take time, years. Nature is such that we think we are polluting earth, truth is we are preparing a deathbed for us only.
Think about it. If Isha is fake, share your views but be open for suggestions. Plus i am no Isha follower. I just am saying my opinion willing to be corrected if i am wrong. Be like this...it will help.. I am Not being judgemental....
Because today times have changed.
No one listen to guru in langoti.
What is wrong if a spiritual leader is making money and well dressed to teach good things.
Why we fix that all guru should be simple.
Yes you may be right Isha has certain wrongs.
Please prove it.
Put in youtube.
Share the proofs.
Even doctors, hospitals, businessman, in fact everything, everyone have their negatives.
You choose good things from Isha. See if good outweighs the bad.
Strongly object the negatives, share them to everyone.
If you dont like Isha, be reasonable, share the proof, let people know Bad things in Isha.
If Isha improves good for them.
Isha or Sadhguru is also from this earth only and he is human. Now you are telling all spiritual person or a place should be perfect.
No, people hate Vivekananda, Gandhi, even Mother Teresa. Buddha was hated by his wife for leaving his throne, her and becoming Ascetic.
Never be judgemental. There are always many sides to a story. See the truth, share it. Be calm , be cool.
Eventually truth will prevail, might take time, years. Nature is such that we think we are polluting earth, truth is we are preparing a deathbed for us only.
Think about it. If Isha is fake, share your views but be open for suggestions. Plus i am no Isha follower. I just am saying my opinion willing to be corrected if i am wrong. Be like this...it will help.. I am Not being judgemental....
Sadhguru Isha Foundation Forest Land Elephant Corridor Encroach Accusation
I am common man too.
These are my facts:
Please correct if i am wrong.
Till date not a single elephant-man conflict since 1992 when Isha started at Isha or vicinity of Isha.
Google earth clearly shows, forest cover from 2001 july (since Google Earth was launched) till today forest cover has increased.
It’s clear..
Plus just one more simple point.
Since 1992, not ONE inch of land has been PROVEN as illegally acquired by Isha. From 1992, not one IAS, IPS, Daring Media, Environmentalists, Activists, Honest Politicians, Aggrieved Public, Judges, No one, not one affected party has been able to prove one inch of land is acquired.
Don’t tell me Sadhguru is so powerful..Today even big whigs like Rahul Ji & Chidambaram’s Son are on bail.
Mallaya case is going on…From 1992 not a single case proven…i am surprised.
Google Earth clearly shows 2001, I can see that Land on which Isha built is barren agricultural.
I am able to see the forest cover actually increase.
In fact inside Isha, the green cover now has been reduced. But it is they are property they can built whatever they inside their property, even if its 112 feet statue as long its not causing any other problems and is within laws..
These are my facts:
Please correct if i am wrong.
Till date not a single elephant-man conflict since 1992 when Isha started at Isha or vicinity of Isha.
Google earth clearly shows, forest cover from 2001 july (since Google Earth was launched) till today forest cover has increased.
It’s clear..
Plus just one more simple point.
Since 1992, not ONE inch of land has been PROVEN as illegally acquired by Isha. From 1992, not one IAS, IPS, Daring Media, Environmentalists, Activists, Honest Politicians, Aggrieved Public, Judges, No one, not one affected party has been able to prove one inch of land is acquired.
Don’t tell me Sadhguru is so powerful..Today even big whigs like Rahul Ji & Chidambaram’s Son are on bail.
Mallaya case is going on…From 1992 not a single case proven…i am surprised.
Google Earth clearly shows 2001, I can see that Land on which Isha built is barren agricultural.
I am able to see the forest cover actually increase.
In fact inside Isha, the green cover now has been reduced. But it is they are property they can built whatever they inside their property, even if its 112 feet statue as long its not causing any other problems and is within laws..
Has Isha Foundation has encroached on forest land in Velliangiri Hills?
This is the video of Piyush Manush (is an environmental activist from Tamil Nadu debating the same question.
Hope you guys know tamil.
I am not saying, I am right, these are the facts I found.
Please share your comments, if I am wrong, I will apologize and spread the truth.
I don't support anyone or against anyone. Just a common man.
I don't believe anyone blindly or follow anyone blindly.
https://youtu.be/8PHA0Zib5vQ
See its very simple.
You are telling Isha building the statue. First thing Land isha foundation is built on private property. They brought barren or dry agricultural land and constructed the foundation.
Next they built statue - anyone is free to build any statue in their property. Now is the statue built abiding the laws. Yes, very simple, is the statue causing any problems to the environment. Is the statue built of any material that is stolen or banned by the government. Is the statue causing any trouble to government or other properties. Decided for yourself. Even if it was causing trouble, by now such a big statue would have been removed.
Now coming to forest or hills, they are spoiling the aesthetics. Be precise, you mean to say they are planting wrong saplings or not doing properly. Then what aesthetics they spoilt. Tell clearly.
As for planting trees in Velliangiri mountains- see google earth. Yes, see google maps of Isha foundation surrounding areas and Velliangiri mountains. Download Google earth - see from the google earth shows the maps for eg: choose the staring year when Google Earth was launched June 11, 2001.
See Velliangiri mountains, see Isha foundation from 2001 till 2018. You will see the forest or green cover has increased.
Now he says aesthetics spoiled, like they planted cactus etc. In Google earth, the trees planted look proper.
Anyways made your job easier about forest cover, see the below video from 2006 to 2013, for the green cover and trees planted by Isha.
[video width="640" height="360" mp4="http://bestashok.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/10/Truths-About-Isha-Yoga-Trees-Cutting.mp4"][/video]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M1cAYjOAKqs
Now for planting 9 lakh sapling plant in Salem, see lets be honest. I planted saplings around my house, you know the government came and removed them. So, if Isha foundation started the sapling drive, is it their duty to take care of the saplings every day and that too for all the 9 lakh saplings in Salem.
See its simple, they did what they can. I am not saying Isha foundation is great or Sadhguru is perfect.
But this argument doesn't stand. All i can say is people don't believe me also, Isha foundation or Sadhguru.
Don't believe this video or Piyush also. Start searching for the truth, you will find out.
I am not saying i am telling the truth, but i am putting forward my thoughts, if i am wrong, correct me.
That's all.
It's easy pointing fingers at anyone.
Let us find the truth and decide for ourselves.
Lastly, he is near Yercaud mountain. How is Yercaud mountain connected to Velliangiri hills.
Where is Yercaud and where is Velliangiri, both are 240 km distance apart.
I don't know what to say beyond this.
Why is truth always made so difficult to find, difficult to believe..
BTW i am no supporter or chamcha of either Isha foundation, Sadhguru or its allies.
This is my opinion, i respect your opinion, i have put forward my opinions... Question is are you ready to debate, let us find out the truth without accusing each other or throwing blames at each other..
I mean i will be happy if i am corrected, even i don't want believe in false things...matter is as simple as that...
I am sharing this boldly because, if I am wrong, i don't mind being corrected.
Hope you guys know tamil.
I am not saying, I am right, these are the facts I found.
Please share your comments, if I am wrong, I will apologize and spread the truth.
I don't support anyone or against anyone. Just a common man.
I don't believe anyone blindly or follow anyone blindly.
https://youtu.be/8PHA0Zib5vQ
See its very simple.
You are telling Isha building the statue. First thing Land isha foundation is built on private property. They brought barren or dry agricultural land and constructed the foundation.
Next they built statue - anyone is free to build any statue in their property. Now is the statue built abiding the laws. Yes, very simple, is the statue causing any problems to the environment. Is the statue built of any material that is stolen or banned by the government. Is the statue causing any trouble to government or other properties. Decided for yourself. Even if it was causing trouble, by now such a big statue would have been removed.
Now coming to forest or hills, they are spoiling the aesthetics. Be precise, you mean to say they are planting wrong saplings or not doing properly. Then what aesthetics they spoilt. Tell clearly.
As for planting trees in Velliangiri mountains- see google earth. Yes, see google maps of Isha foundation surrounding areas and Velliangiri mountains. Download Google earth - see from the google earth shows the maps for eg: choose the staring year when Google Earth was launched June 11, 2001.
See Velliangiri mountains, see Isha foundation from 2001 till 2018. You will see the forest or green cover has increased.
Now he says aesthetics spoiled, like they planted cactus etc. In Google earth, the trees planted look proper.
Anyways made your job easier about forest cover, see the below video from 2006 to 2013, for the green cover and trees planted by Isha.
[video width="640" height="360" mp4="http://bestashok.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/10/Truths-About-Isha-Yoga-Trees-Cutting.mp4"][/video]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M1cAYjOAKqs
Now for planting 9 lakh sapling plant in Salem, see lets be honest. I planted saplings around my house, you know the government came and removed them. So, if Isha foundation started the sapling drive, is it their duty to take care of the saplings every day and that too for all the 9 lakh saplings in Salem.
See its simple, they did what they can. I am not saying Isha foundation is great or Sadhguru is perfect.
But this argument doesn't stand. All i can say is people don't believe me also, Isha foundation or Sadhguru.
Don't believe this video or Piyush also. Start searching for the truth, you will find out.
I am not saying i am telling the truth, but i am putting forward my thoughts, if i am wrong, correct me.
That's all.
It's easy pointing fingers at anyone.
Let us find the truth and decide for ourselves.
Lastly, he is near Yercaud mountain. How is Yercaud mountain connected to Velliangiri hills.
Where is Yercaud and where is Velliangiri, both are 240 km distance apart.
I don't know what to say beyond this.
Why is truth always made so difficult to find, difficult to believe..
BTW i am no supporter or chamcha of either Isha foundation, Sadhguru or its allies.
This is my opinion, i respect your opinion, i have put forward my opinions... Question is are you ready to debate, let us find out the truth without accusing each other or throwing blames at each other..
I mean i will be happy if i am corrected, even i don't want believe in false things...matter is as simple as that...
I am sharing this boldly because, if I am wrong, i don't mind being corrected.
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